False TPMS Alert

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cuprabob

14,621 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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MakaveliX said:
cuprabob said:
We know smile
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Perhaps when the alert came on one tyre was at a different rotation and then shortly after when it warmed up they were the same, hence why the pressure on the front axle was the same and the pressure on the rear was the same when I checked a few minutes later.
.. or perhaps youre over thinking it smile

Just keep checking your pressures regularly, as you're doing, and accept the system is fallible.


Edited by cuprabob on Sunday 26th February 18:32

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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cuprabob said:
.. or perhaps youre over thinking it smile

Just keep checking your pressures regularly, as your doing, and accept the system is fallible.
Fair enough thanks thumbup

arfur

3,871 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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My X3 does this occasionally ... seems to be weather related in the main

I just reset it occasionally as I do have an old habit of checking tyre pressures once a month anyhow (as I was taught many many years ago)

Still goes off a couple of times a year though ... Not really a bad thing if you are not in the habit of checking pressures much

mrmichaelsankey

86 posts

141 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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911 gives pressure and temp…. Never had an alert.
Wife’s macan gives pressure, had to have everything tpms related changed after buying the car, front left was reading rear left etc, then warnings when senders lost connection etc.

Could be a sensor issue? I note yours may be based on rotation? Abs sensor playing up?

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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mrmichaelsankey said:
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Could be a sensor issue? I note yours may be based on rotation? Abs sensor playing up?
No issues I don't think.
If any one tyre fluctuates by 3psi, up OR down, it gives an alert. Just the way it works I think. Annoying because it can give a false positive if the tyre pressures increase during a journey

Pica-Pica

13,788 posts

84 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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MakaveliX said:
mrmichaelsankey said:
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Could be a sensor issue? I note yours may be based on rotation? Abs sensor playing up?
No issues I don't think.
If any one tyre fluctuates by 3psi, up OR down, it gives an alert. Just the way it works I think. Annoying because it can give a false positive if the tyre pressures increase during a journey
If you reset when you have done a number of miles then that may trigger a low reading when cold. I have found that pressures reach close to maximum after about 40 miles of 60-70 mph driving, and then only rise about 1 psi after that, if anything. You may have to experiment, but I would say that a run of 10 to 15 miles would get you halfway from cold to the maximum psi you would see. Try a reset after no more than 10 miles, and see how that goes.

OldGermanHeaps

3,830 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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Mismatched tyres or differing amounts of wear?

Byker28i

59,816 posts

217 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Welcome to MAzda TPMS - we had a nightmare with our Mazda 6 over our many years of ownership.

They are really sensitive to differences between tyres. Mazda have a solution where they reset the system then take it for a constant 50mph drive for 20mins, but it didn't cure ours. It was in and out for years trying to fix the fault. In the end we just used to ignore it and mute it everytime. Terrible system.

You do have to make sure you change tyres on the same axle at the same time, expensive if you get a puncture. Mazda's solution suggested to us was to change all 4 tyres - at £200 for each wheel!

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Byker28i said:
Welcome to MAzda TPMS - we had a nightmare with our Mazda 6 over our many years of ownership.

They are really sensitive to differences between tyres. Mazda have a solution where they reset the system then take it for a constant 50mph drive for 20mins, but it didn't cure ours. It was in and out for years trying to fix the fault. In the end we just used to ignore it and mute it everytime. Terrible system.

You do have to make sure you change tyres on the same axle at the same time, expensive if you get a puncture. Mazda's solution suggested to us was to change all 4 tyres - at £200 for each wheel!
Thank you for the helpful information. Yeah these mazdas are great to drive but do have their own flaws ( as I'd assume most cars do )

Tyres are all pretty much brand new Michelin PS5s.

At least you can empathise how annoying it was to worry thinking I had a flat tyre when everything was completely fine.

3 times since owning the car the light has come on, and only once was it actually correct. Owned the car for 4 months

First time down country roads the tyres got hot and gave a false alert.
Second time was a lifesaver because I actually did have a fast puncture which thankfully got fixed
Third time was yesterday down an A road when it was a false alert

Difficult to just ignore it, especially on fast roads where you have to wait for an exit to actually check the tyres and not knowing whether it's another false alert or not.

If only it had direct tpms where you can monitor the tyre pressures via the cars infotainment system. That would be an ideal solution

cuprabob

14,621 posts

214 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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MakaveliX said:
If only it had direct tpms where you can monitor the tyre pressures via the cars infotainment system. That would be an ideal solution
You're making the assumption those systems don't have issues as well.

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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cuprabob said:
You're making the assumption those systems don't have issues as well.
Are they not more reliable generally though?

Zarco

17,846 posts

209 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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My Megane uses the ABS sensors I believe. I don't think it alerts to high pressure though. I've certainly never seen it. Basically works and I've never had a false alarm low pressure alert.


cuprabob

14,621 posts

214 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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MakaveliX said:
cuprabob said:
You're making the assumption those systems don't have issues as well.
Are they not more reliable generally though?
You would end up having sleepless nights because the figure in the display is different to the pressure you set using your expensive gauge smile


Edited by cuprabob on Monday 27th February 18:37

Pica-Pica

13,788 posts

84 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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cuprabob said:
MakaveliX said:
cuprabob said:
You're making the assumption those systems don't have issues as well.
Are they not more reliable generally though?
You would end up having sleepless nights because the figure in the display is different to the pressure you set using your en pensive gauge smile
I dont have sleepless nights. The TPMS on my F30, takes all of its ‘warm up mileage’ to reach the cold setting of a manual kerbside gauge. I have a Halfords digital, and TireTek analogue hand gauges, they match, and the TPMS display matches after about 30 to 40 miles. I think that is to meet (less knowledgable) customer expectations on the cars readout.

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Happened again today.
20 minutes down the motorway the light comes on. Got to my destination 25 minutes later, tyre pressures were all fine.
Reset the light, drove home, no tpms light. Same as last time

Would it be best to take it to an indy or would it have to be mazda ? I am under warranty, but their "diagnostic" charges are ridiculous.

The only pattern I can see is when driving around town, no issues. But if I set off on a longish journey on the motorway or a-road, the light comes on half way there.

I have no tpms valves, it's the indirect system which uses the ABS sensor I believe.

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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As usual No light for 10 days or so. Until I hit the same long A-Road today and it came on.

Driving round town, no light. Driving on fast long roads, light comes on

The baffling thing is, it comes in on the way there, then i turn the light off and it stays off for the whole journey back

Worth contacting mazda or not?

Edited by MakaveliX on Sunday 12th March 17:45

cuprabob

14,621 posts

214 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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MakaveliX said:
Worth contacting mazda or not?

Edited by MakaveliX on Sunday 12th March 17:45
No, as I doubt they will be able to resolve it.

Sadly, I think you are just going to have to live with it.

MakaveliX

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537 posts

29 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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cuprabob said:
No, as I doubt they will be able to resolve it.

Sadly, I think you are just going to have to live with it.
Understood, thanks smile

vikingaero

10,331 posts

169 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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If you search Honda Jazz TPMS, you'll find loads of people fed up with it. Seems a very Japanese trait for TPMS to cry wolf. I carry a tyre pressure gauge in each car. TPMS cries wolf, check tyre pressures, ignore the bd!

vikingaero

10,331 posts

169 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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With the current hot weather, the TPMS in the Jazz has been crying wolf everyday.

So every time it goes off, I take my hands off the wheel to make sure it's not pulling from a deflated tyre. Pull over and perform a visual check. Then get the tyre gauge out and tyre pressures should be 33 psi all round, but with the heatwave, the tyres in direct sunlight had increased to 37psi and and 35 psi for the others.