Colour change/respray
Discussion
Twenty odd years ago, lad at college asked me how much a respray would be for his 318 (I think - it may have been a bigger engine) from metallic grey to black. I said that, even as a poor amateur (as I was), I would look for at least £500. He went to a mate that sprayed taxis and got it done for £90! You wouldn't believe how many variations there are in black! He had at least five different shades (and levels of shine) as the feller had used up all his left over paint from other jobs!
After the rest of us had had our laugh, we admitted that, as a dark grey car, it looked great - as a black one, it looked dire. A fortnight later, the lad fitted a body kit. I say fitted - there was some of it touching the car - and it was yet another shade or two of black! He must have knocked a nought off the value of the car.
If OP wants cheap, perhaps some sand paper, a tin of cheapo brilliant white and a 2" brush would do the trick! My brother in law did that with a Maxi many years ago and it looked OK - at night.
After the rest of us had had our laugh, we admitted that, as a dark grey car, it looked great - as a black one, it looked dire. A fortnight later, the lad fitted a body kit. I say fitted - there was some of it touching the car - and it was yet another shade or two of black! He must have knocked a nought off the value of the car.
If OP wants cheap, perhaps some sand paper, a tin of cheapo brilliant white and a 2" brush would do the trick! My brother in law did that with a Maxi many years ago and it looked OK - at night.
dbfan said:
I watched Wheeler Dealers (on Quest) the other night, Edd was rubbing down a Sprite and said he's saved £600 by doing that bit himself! IIRC, the respray was £1500.
There's not many sprayers that will take on others prep - reasons:If the prep isn't good enough should the sprayer simply apply paint regardless of the end finish?
If the prep materials and spraying materials aren't compatible, don't work together, re-act or fail at a later stage who gets the blame?
Squiggs said:
There's not many sprayers that will take on others prep - reasons:
If the prep isn't good enough should the sprayer simply apply paint regardless of the end finish?
If the prep materials and spraying materials aren't compatible, don't work together, re-act or fail at a later stage who gets the blame?
Fair enough - I would say something similar, I learnt the lesson many years ago on a "rush job" for a neighbour who needed a door painting to match his Volvo 245 that was going to be a wedding car the next day! The family got into the car while I was finishing off the trim!If the prep isn't good enough should the sprayer simply apply paint regardless of the end finish?
If the prep materials and spraying materials aren't compatible, don't work together, re-act or fail at a later stage who gets the blame?
My point was that it cost £1500 for a respray and the car was already prepared. So, in theory, a full job would have been £2100.
A sprite is not the same size as a modern car,
Also is far easier to take apart (removing mouldings, trim, bumpers, windows etc) than a modern car.
example a BMW Z4 we recently carried out a full repsray on was far easier and quicker than the Golf R32 that was resprayed, basically alot less things and parts to remove to repaint properly.
More importantly NO roof to repaint on Z4
golf can be found here (not showing the fully stripped car, EG we got photos showing wings and bonnet off then replaced on car to paint outer faces)
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In fact the ferrari Enzo was easier than both cars to strip, only real issue is the price of some of the components that we removed (rear clam 32k bare, headlights 8k each).
Here is the enzo with a post answering cost of respray question by Ph member so relavant to this thread
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
what i am getting to is time is money and one car full repaint can be totally different to another car when both are being currectly fully striped.
The very old designed cars are far simplier.
My old TVR tuscan had a full colour change the total cost was cheaper than you would expect, this was done to how easy they are to paint with the lack of ANY mouldings , clips , trims etc.
size comes into it due to prep work of course is going to be longer on larger car.
HTH Kelly
Also is far easier to take apart (removing mouldings, trim, bumpers, windows etc) than a modern car.
example a BMW Z4 we recently carried out a full repsray on was far easier and quicker than the Golf R32 that was resprayed, basically alot less things and parts to remove to repaint properly.
More importantly NO roof to repaint on Z4
golf can be found here (not showing the fully stripped car, EG we got photos showing wings and bonnet off then replaced on car to paint outer faces)
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In fact the ferrari Enzo was easier than both cars to strip, only real issue is the price of some of the components that we removed (rear clam 32k bare, headlights 8k each).
Here is the enzo with a post answering cost of respray question by Ph member so relavant to this thread
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
what i am getting to is time is money and one car full repaint can be totally different to another car when both are being currectly fully striped.
The very old designed cars are far simplier.
My old TVR tuscan had a full colour change the total cost was cheaper than you would expect, this was done to how easy they are to paint with the lack of ANY mouldings , clips , trims etc.
size comes into it due to prep work of course is going to be longer on larger car.
HTH Kelly
Edited by kds keltec on Monday 21st July 09:33
Edited by kds keltec on Monday 21st July 09:33
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