Anyone given up on snow foam

Anyone given up on snow foam

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MDMA .

5,854 posts

61 months

Thursday 10th September
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Red 4 said:
MDMA . said:
Wash the car as normal, then clay it all over. Next with the polish, then your wax, then seal it. It's all in the prep. Get that done and it should last 6-12 months easy. Your weekly clean will be so much easier next time.
You're doing it wrong.

Wax is always the final stage. Sealant seals in the shine. Most sealants don't stick to wax.

As you say, it's all in the prep (if you do it right).
Morning. Yes, I always type wax and seal! Seal the polish, wax on top. Currently using Collinite insulator wax on top of mine. I find it needs to be warm for best application.

dhutch

7,885 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th September
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ReverendCounter said:
Are you seriously trying to pass the difference in these images off as being down to snow foam? rofl
I must say, they look the same to me, bar the brightest level and mud around the arches.

TimmyMallett

1,076 posts

72 months

Thursday 10th September
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ReverendCounter said:
Are you seriously trying to pass the difference in these images off as being down to snow foam? rofl

For anyone else being misled by this, the deeper shade of paint, the detail in the gravel, the shadows, even the light clusters have all been affected by, and its purely down to whatever filters, software etc _Hoppers is using to enhance/saturate/increase contrast/vibrance etc etc etc etc!

By the way _Hoppers, did you use it on the conifers as well, they've come up lovely.
I suspect that's his phone software and less likely to do with any 1337 photoshop skillz, but I don't believe for a second it cleaned the alloys like that. The upper inside of the spokes are completely free of any dirt and I have that exact product and it doesn't do anything like that, regardless of dilution ratio.


I cant be bothered with it anymore. It just doesn't make that much difference unless it's mid winter and even then it just slides over traffic film and isn't the panacea it's made out to be.


The one thing in the cornucopia of detailing products that is a time saver is filtered water and after buying one, I wouldn't go back.


Edited by TimmyMallett on Thursday 10th September 11:44

dhutch

7,885 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th September
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gweaver said:
Give it a quick once over with Turtle Wax Hybrid Sealant Hydrophobic Wax. You can get it for £8-10, it's quick and easy to use, and you'll soon find out if having a sealant makes your snow foam more effective.
Interesting, well out of the frame on this, but easy to use and only £8-10 sounds good to me!

This guy appears to rate it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOHcchAB7-0

Presumably still needs a good wash and polish beforehand mind...

_Hoppers

501 posts

25 months

Thursday 10th September
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ReverendCounter said:
_Hoppers said:
It works well for me, before and after shots below after treatment with Bilt Hambers snow foam.

Are you seriously trying to pass the difference in these images off as being down to snow foam? rofl

For anyone else being misled by this, the deeper shade of paint, the detail in the gravel, the shadows, even the light clusters have all been affected by, and its purely down to whatever filters, software etc _Hoppers is using to enhance/saturate/increase contrast/vibrance etc etc etc etc!

By the way _Hoppers, did you use it on the conifers as well, they've come up lovely.
I'd have assumed that people who aren't idiots to realise that the phone camera has used different white balance/contrast/exposure settings which has resulted in the images appearing different. I've nothing to gain from over exaggerating the performance of Bilt Hambers snow foam!!

EDIT See LeeJV's post on the matter

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by _Hoppers on Thursday 10th September 12:09

gweaver

701 posts

118 months

Thursday 10th September
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dhutch said:
gweaver said:
Give it a quick once over with Turtle Wax Hybrid Sealant Hydrophobic Wax. You can get it for £8-10, it's quick and easy to use, and you'll soon find out if having a sealant makes your snow foam more effective.
Interesting, well out of the frame on this, but easy to use and only £8-10 sounds good to me!

This guy appears to rate it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOHcchAB7-0

Presumably still needs a good wash and polish beforehand mind...
If I want to do a quick job I just wash the car and use spray sealant. That's the pragmatic approach if you're time poor.

If I want to take my time, I'll get the tar and iron off and use a paste wax/sealant such as Fusso.

I don't have a DA polisher, so I only clay and hand polish the bits that need attention.

dhutch

7,885 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th September
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gweaver said:
If I want to do a quick job I just wash the car and use spray sealant. That's the pragmatic approach if you're time poor.

If I want to take my time, I'll get the tar and iron off and use a paste wax/sealant such as Fusso.

I don't have a DA polisher, so I only clay and hand polish the bits that need attention.
Sounds reasonable to me!

All I need to do now is get the off few 1yo hard as nails tree sap splodges off, presumably mechanically.

Might have to find someone nearby to do it. Wont derail the thread but if anyone knows of one Wirral/Liverpool then msg me.


Daniel

broncoupe

126 posts

186 months

Friday 11th September
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jakesmith
This is a very emotional topic for most people some pionts to help
1- People who prepare and protect their cars as in some of the contributors here
Their prewash snow foam has a much easier job
2-Bilt Hamber products are great and a quick phone call to them will explain that dilution rates are quite complicated even when seemly straight forward
I would guess you are using the product far too diluted I know i did
Use more product its not the foamest but its good on dirt
3-If you can apply a product called beadmaster every month or so..... before you say not more work....... try it just the once and it will convert you why because when you wipe it off the effect can be felt and seen immediately
I wager you will even smile









jakesmith

Original Poster:

8,564 posts

131 months

Sunday 13th September
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broncoupe said:
jakesmith
This is a very emotional topic for most people some pionts to help
1- People who prepare and protect their cars as in some of the contributors here
Their prewash snow foam has a much easier job
2-Bilt Hamber products are great and a quick phone call to them will explain that dilution rates are quite complicated even when seemly straight forward
I would guess you are using the product far too diluted I know i did
Use more product its not the foamest but its good on dirt
3-If you can apply a product called beadmaster every month or so..... before you say not more work....... try it just the once and it will convert you why because when you wipe it off the effect can be felt and seen immediately
I wager you will even smile
Thanks for this, I normally put about an inch in the lance bottle but tried 300ml instead last week and much better results. I also bought the recommended hybrid sealant from earlier up in the thread and will give it a go too smile

_Hoppers

501 posts

25 months

Saturday 17th October
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TimmyMallett said:
I don't believe for a second it cleaned the alloys like that.
Edited by TimmyMallett on Thursday 10th September 11:44
For all you doubters out there (click for video).This was after a holiday out in The
Lakes and a week’s worth of driving around the stty local roads! Bilt Hamber snow foam left to do its thing for 10-15mins before power washing off

Edited by _Hoppers on Saturday 17th October 12:37