Autoglym Extra Gloss vs Real Wax
Discussion
Does anyone have a view on this? I've been using the autoglym because it's cheap, easy to get hold of and was available when I needed something to use. I've been impressed with results - good beading, nice deep shine, easy to clean and a small top up every month or so seems to keep it fresh. I believe the autoglym is a "blend of hard resin and waxes" - no carnauba here!
Would I notice an improvement going to a fairly low price real wax? I'm not going to be going for anything expensive.
Opinions from people who have made the switch please!
Would I notice an improvement going to a fairly low price real wax? I'm not going to be going for anything expensive.
Opinions from people who have made the switch please!
BMWBen said:
Does anyone have a view on this? I've been using the autoglym because it's cheap, easy to get hold of and was available when I needed something to use. I've been impressed with results - good beading, nice deep shine, easy to clean and a small top up every month or so seems to keep it fresh. I believe the autoglym is a "blend of hard resin and waxes" - no carnauba here!
Would I notice an improvement going to a fairly low price real wax? I'm not going to be going for anything expensive.
Opinions from people who have made the switch please!
in a nutshell, no, any perceived improvement would be negligible at best. saying that, it depends what you want. for 8mths of the year in this country, i would recommend you went with Collinite 476 wax. do it properly in september and it will last through until late spring. you could then use a more bling wax/synthetic for the fleeting summer months.Would I notice an improvement going to a fairly low price real wax? I'm not going to be going for anything expensive.
Opinions from people who have made the switch please!
At £40? Think that goes against the grain of what the OP was looking to spend.
With Collinite he has a carnauba based wax, which is highly regarded as far as longevity is concerned.
915, Marque D'Elegance is not quite as long lasting (so they say), but has a bit more in the looks dept.
Given it's highly solvent based, any benefit over AG EGP will be lost since the carriers will likely strip the EGP, and I'd surmise Colly is better lasting than EGP anyway.
Better to change completely to Colly, or go with my recommended product - Bilt Hamber Auto Balm, or a DoDo Juice carnauba wax, which is still 2x the price of the Colly and Auto Balm.
Another alternative would be Carlack Sealant, with a DoDo over the top, but again I hasten to add, the difference between a sealant on its own, and one with a wax layer or two on top, is minute. Most people wouldn't be able to tell a difference, even though others would make it sound like there's a world of difference due to the warmth/glow that a carny wax supposedly gives paintwork.
Too many people jump on bandwagons, with no clue as to why - this and mixing shampoos with snow foams are but two that are such instances.
With Collinite he has a carnauba based wax, which is highly regarded as far as longevity is concerned.
915, Marque D'Elegance is not quite as long lasting (so they say), but has a bit more in the looks dept.
Given it's highly solvent based, any benefit over AG EGP will be lost since the carriers will likely strip the EGP, and I'd surmise Colly is better lasting than EGP anyway.
Better to change completely to Colly, or go with my recommended product - Bilt Hamber Auto Balm, or a DoDo Juice carnauba wax, which is still 2x the price of the Colly and Auto Balm.
Another alternative would be Carlack Sealant, with a DoDo over the top, but again I hasten to add, the difference between a sealant on its own, and one with a wax layer or two on top, is minute. Most people wouldn't be able to tell a difference, even though others would make it sound like there's a world of difference due to the warmth/glow that a carny wax supposedly gives paintwork.
Too many people jump on bandwagons, with no clue as to why - this and mixing shampoos with snow foams are but two that are such instances.
PJ S said:
Too many people jump on bandwagons, with no clue as to why - this and mixing shampoos with snow foams are but two that are such instances.
Just a quick note on that last point.I was using Elite Snow Foam on it's own, but didn't think it was on the car long enough to make much difference, then 'experimenting' without influence, decided to add a lidful of zymol shampoo. The resulting mix was considerably more 'clingy' and therefore IMO would offer more cleaning power, as it's effectively soaking on the paintwork longer, much like leaving your pans to soak in the sink before attempting to clean them. Not sure what other combinations would do, but this one definately has it's merits.
EGP is fine by the way. I used for ages, not as durable as the Dodo I use now, looks wise I 'think' the wax is better BUT, I have learnt a lot since I've moved to wax, and the claying and preparation I do now is what has probably made the difference, not the final product.
Yep, surface prep is king. Wax/sealant is the cherry on top of the icing, and adds little other than fine nuance to well prep'd paintwork.
As for SF and shampoo mixing - I still maintain, if the SF isn't doing the job right, after playing around with concentrations and mix ratio on the foamer/lance, then the foam isn't the right one for you.
Not all SF's are equal or rebranded one manufacturer make - there can/is quite a bit of variability, and even the water hardness in your area will affect the amount you need to make a rich foam.
The Zymöl shampoo, which I'm surmising is the one Turtle Wax are contracted to produce for Halfords, might have had some chelating agents, or more than the Elite SF, which will reduce the effect water hardness has.
All I'm saying is that people read others recommendations to add/mix a number of shampoos, and think that's how it's supposed to be - it's not; it's more a case of trial and error in finding the right one, which does the job you need of it.
For that reason, I recommend the Bilt Hamber Auto Wash, which whilst not designed specifically for foaming application, does so very nicely.
Then again, so does 4 Star, which smells lovely, and Einszett's Perls. Meguiar's Hyper and Shampoo+ will do too, since they are high dilution ratio products.
TW-Zymöl I found to be better suited solely in a typical bucket solution, but never tried mixing it with the SSF from Autobrite, which is a very decent shampoo on its own.
So, I've been there and somewhat done it, and can confidently say at this juncture, Auto Wash is the best shampoo I've come across, although I will be trialing their Auto Foam (or whatever they'll end up calling it), as well as DoDo's Shampoo sample, to see how they stack up.
So, like before, I'll put up a "review" like I did back in August last year for the Auto Clay.
You'll be interested to know that Auto Balm has more swirl hiding ability than SRP, will act as a light chemical abrasive (old dead oxidised paint removal on the applicator if single stage), and lasts a long time, with a brilliant sheen. It's a sealant in its design, albeit in paste form, but it doesn't quite have the cold sterile optically transparent shine that is considered to be a sealant trait.
As for SF and shampoo mixing - I still maintain, if the SF isn't doing the job right, after playing around with concentrations and mix ratio on the foamer/lance, then the foam isn't the right one for you.
Not all SF's are equal or rebranded one manufacturer make - there can/is quite a bit of variability, and even the water hardness in your area will affect the amount you need to make a rich foam.
The Zymöl shampoo, which I'm surmising is the one Turtle Wax are contracted to produce for Halfords, might have had some chelating agents, or more than the Elite SF, which will reduce the effect water hardness has.
All I'm saying is that people read others recommendations to add/mix a number of shampoos, and think that's how it's supposed to be - it's not; it's more a case of trial and error in finding the right one, which does the job you need of it.
For that reason, I recommend the Bilt Hamber Auto Wash, which whilst not designed specifically for foaming application, does so very nicely.
Then again, so does 4 Star, which smells lovely, and Einszett's Perls. Meguiar's Hyper and Shampoo+ will do too, since they are high dilution ratio products.
TW-Zymöl I found to be better suited solely in a typical bucket solution, but never tried mixing it with the SSF from Autobrite, which is a very decent shampoo on its own.
So, I've been there and somewhat done it, and can confidently say at this juncture, Auto Wash is the best shampoo I've come across, although I will be trialing their Auto Foam (or whatever they'll end up calling it), as well as DoDo's Shampoo sample, to see how they stack up.
So, like before, I'll put up a "review" like I did back in August last year for the Auto Clay.
You'll be interested to know that Auto Balm has more swirl hiding ability than SRP, will act as a light chemical abrasive (old dead oxidised paint removal on the applicator if single stage), and lasts a long time, with a brilliant sheen. It's a sealant in its design, albeit in paste form, but it doesn't quite have the cold sterile optically transparent shine that is considered to be a sealant trait.
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