Acid Mud/etched paint Help

[S600VXR]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Have a read and if you have any ideas let me know.

[Magic919]

I presume this is now closed.

Hope you get the dodgy paint sorted.

[V8covin]

Are you sure it's mud and not road tar ? That stuff sticks ! Try some traffic film remover as used by valeters/detailers

[S600VXR]

V8covin said:

Are you sure it's mud and not road tar ? That stuff sticks ! Try some traffic film remover as used by valeters/detailers

The paints actually etched like when you leave caustic bird st on some paints for a long time and it eats into the paints. Seen vauxhal this morning and they are going to arrange to have the car inspected and a report written. Thing is the unpainted panels are unmarked! and no one else had any issues.

[mneame]

can you post so close up pics please. then i may be able to give some advice on how to rectify it.

matt.

[S600VXR]

Doubt I will get time but it looks just like the damage that bird droppings causes sometimes. Vauxhal have asked the paint suppliers to do a review of the car and a report since it will have to be re-sprayed again! The old paint is unmarked - only the new paint is damaged.

[mneame]

it does sound strange that it's happened at all even on new paint as they should have baked it ideally. how long ago was the bumper painted? Did they advise on paint protection?

i had a spot like this on an xjr that i detailed a while back. but as you say this was caused by bird etching. The layers of paint had seperated and the only solution was to repaint.

in the report look to see if they give you a thickness reading of each layer. this should give more of an understanding of why it happened.

at the end of the day it's a pain to have to send the car back in to have it repainted, but as long as you're not out of pocket. make sure that they don't just flat down the areas and polish back up. You could end up with the same problem in future.

Once it's been sorted out, ask them what to seal the paint with and how soon. There are products that i would recommend but you should go with what the paint shop says.

If they say any wax or sealant, give me a shout and i'll let you know what i like to use.

[Tony Starks]

Have you tried malt vinegar??

iirc you've just had your car polished and waxed?

it could be water spots that have dried in the sun (but with added mud).

But this is only speculation as there are no pictures/I haven't seen the problem in the flesh.

[mneame]

Tony Starks said:

Have you tried malt vinegar??

iirc you've just had your car polished and waxed?

it could be water spots that have dried in the sun (but with added mud).

But this is only speculation as there are no pictures/I haven't seen the problem in the flesh.

i'd rather try claybaring than vinegar incase it reacts with anything. at the end of the day, vinegar contains / is a form of acid.

[Tony Starks]

mneame said:

i'd rather try claybaring than vinegar incase it reacts with anything. at the end of the day, vinegar contains / is a form of acid.

Very minor though, it's not like trying Wonder Wheels on it, I've used vinegar to remove water spots on my car with no problems and thats got a few repainted panels (although much older, tattier paint)

[mneame]

Tony Starks said:

mneame said:

i'd rather try claybaring than vinegar incase it reacts with anything. at the end of the day, vinegar contains / is a form of acid.

Very minor though, it's not like trying Wonder Wheels on it, I've used vinegar to remove water spots on my car with no problems and thats got a few repainted panels (although much older, tattier paint)

still wouldn't use it as there are far better options out there that you won't potentially ruin the risk of damaging your paint with. but if it works for you then stick with it. just be sure to reprotect your paint after as it will be bare.

[S600VXR]

Car being inspected by Standox on Friday. I cant remove the etching as its eaten into the paint a little. Could probably mop it out if lucky but as pointed out it may then happen again in the future. The paint was applied in February and to the touch now it is VERY soft still - ie: run your fingernail on it and it digs in! See what they say on Friday - cheers for the feedback.

[MichalR]

Ive got the exact same issue with then paint on my SEAT Ibiza which was also caused by Brands Hatch mud
I really dont know what to do as i have tried polishing it out many times but it hasnt helped at all.
I dont suppose that i could give SEAT a ring complaining that this type of reaction shouldnt occur on a car that is 2 years old!?

Cheers

Michal

[mneame]

MichalR said:

Ive got the exact same issue with then paint on my SEAT Ibiza which was also caused by Brands Hatch mud
I really dont know what to do as i have tried polishing it out many times but it hasnt helped at all.
I dont suppose that i could give SEAT a ring complaining that this type of reaction shouldnt occur on a car that is 2 years old!?

Cheers

Michal

where are you based?

[MichalR]

mneame said:

MichalR said:

Ive got the exact same issue with then paint on my SEAT Ibiza which was also caused by Brands Hatch mud
I really dont know what to do as i have tried polishing it out many times but it hasnt helped at all.
I dont suppose that i could give SEAT a ring complaining that this type of reaction shouldnt occur on a car that is 2 years old!?

Cheers

Michal

where are you based?

Bromley, South East London

[mneame]

I could come and take a look at it for you at some point. or have you got some good quality close up pics?

idealy as i saaid above somewhere, it should be resprayed. however if it hasn't gon that deep and there is enough clear coat, itcould be flatted down and polished back up. the only trouble is there's nothing to say that it wouldn;t happen the next time that you went there.