what`s the best method

what`s the best method

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janek

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5 posts

171 months

Wednesday 19th May 2010
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i have been looking at buying some FK 1000p and Collinte 476s and would like to know the best way to use them ?

wash car
clay
AG super resin polish
AG extra gloss protection
AG ulter deep shine
FK 1000

or would i be better doing-

wash
clay
Collinte 476s
FK1000

any throught please






PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th May 2010
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No point buying both unless you like to swap your wax/sealant from time to time.
FK1000 is possibly better on alloys to protect them somewhat from grime building up, but Collinite is considered the more durable of the two on the paintwork.

As for regime - unless you're using SRP to mask and/or remove lighter swirl marks, then you don't need to do much other than wash, clay, dry, wax.
And you don't need to clay the whole car, if done not that long ago - just the areas were you feel anything when using a bit of clingfilm over your fingertips after rinsing.

janek

Original Poster:

5 posts

171 months

Wednesday 19th May 2010
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Thanks for the reply

i thought that you would wax the car first with the Collinite 476 then seal with the FK1000 to protect

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th May 2010
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Nope - sealants don't bond to wax, but to the substrate itself.
Waxes are less fussy about what they sit on top of.

Bear in mind the reason for waxing over a sealant is for a few reasons - flawed ones at that.

1) Most liquid sealants like say Zaino Z-2 are considered to be/have a sterile look - a very matter of fact result - so waxes, which are deemed to have a warmth/glow, are used to counteract the sterility.
This is very much perception based, and not everyone subscribes to the Emperor having no clothes on.

2) Most sealants tend not to offer small, tight beading characteristics when it rains, so waxing over the sealant restores this loss of aesthetic beading quality.
The downside to beading is dirt and minerals in the raindrop, get left behind when the water evaporates, so you end up with this terrible mottled effect on the flat panels.

3) Most people think multiple layers will last longer.
This is true up to a point - 2-3 layers in total is about the best you can hope for, and that's if you leave the previous layer for up to 24 hours to fully cure.
Most users will put subsequent layers on far too soon, so the carrier solvents in the product will likely interfere/remove some of the preceding layer.
But don't be fooled into believing a carnauba wax will last beyond 3-4 months - by that stage, contaminants, UV, and heat cycles will have deteriorated it to the point of needing to be stripped off, and redone. And the same applies to putting a fresh layer on each month - the original base layer will have shot its bolt.

janek

Original Poster:

5 posts

171 months

Wednesday 19th May 2010
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Cheers PJS

Will be out this weekend cleaning the car and will use the fk1000 first then finish with the Collinte 476s(have ordered both from Cleanyour Car who have been very helpfull and said that i could send back what i do not need,but i think that i will try both?

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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In all fairness to CYC, that's a nice gesture, but remember, if you use the FK1000, and decide it's not for you, then they can't resell it again.
Well the can as used, but they'll be expected to discount the price.
So, from the point of view, and in lieu of what I've explained, you might just keep both or return one unopened.