Polish that doesn't leave powder & general advice please

Polish that doesn't leave powder & general advice please

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JFReturns

3,696 posts

172 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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I've just re-read your original post regarding the Autoglym SRP, and suspect you are not using it properly. If you read the hand polishing guide I posted earlier, the guy really worked the SRP by going over the same spot several times in multiple directions. When the SRP was properly worked in, it was buffed off, then the whole process was repeated five times..... You should work on a section no bigger than 18" square at a time (can you see why I brought a DA now wink ).

If you are not keen on a machine polisher, then give it a another crack as above (perhaps with a sightly damp applicator and use less polish to minimise dust). You will see better results I'm sure, but your arm will be dead!

HoHoHo

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14,987 posts

251 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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JFReturns said:
I've just re-read your original post regarding the Autoglym SRP, and suspect you are not using it properly. If you read the hand polishing guide I posted earlier, the guy really worked the SRP by going over the same spot several times in multiple directions. When the SRP was properly worked in, it was buffed off, then the whole process was repeated five times..... You should work on a section no bigger than 18" square at a time (can you see why I brought a DA now wink ).

If you are not keen on a machine polisher, then give it a another crack as above (perhaps with a sightly damp applicator and use less polish to minimise dust). You will see better results I'm sure, but your arm will be dead!
I suspect you are right!

williaa68

1,528 posts

167 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Atlas does show the scratches a bit but it is better than black!

HoHoHo

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14,987 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Ok, I had a look in the garage and I have a dual action £30 rotary polisher which I've not used ever (had it about 3 years, not sure why I bought it back then, but I did!) and I had a go on my truck to see just how difficult this game was - amazing results but a bit wobbly!

Now I haven't used it on the 997 and frankly it has given me white finger having played with it for a couple of hours so I'm prepared to invest in a better polisher to use on the fleet.

Which sort, where from and which polishes?

paddyhasneeds

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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HoHoHo said:
Ok, I had a look in the garage and I have a dual action £30 rotary polisher which I've not used ever (had it about 3 years, not sure why I bought it back then, but I did!) and I had a go on my truck to see just how difficult this game was - amazing results but a bit wobbly!

Now I haven't used it on the 997 and frankly it has given me white finger having played with it for a couple of hours so I'm prepared to invest in a better polisher to use on the fleet.

Which sort, where from and which polishes?
What do you mean by "dual action £30 rotary polisher" as polishers are usually one or the other.

A proper rotary only spins, there's no "orbit", and if you use it incorrectly it can and will burn through paint quite happily, so if it's one of those don't use it on your 997.

There's a bunch of dual action polishers available, Dodo Juice, DAS6 etc. Take a look at somewhere like www.cleanyourcar.co.uk or www.polishedbliss.co.uk and you'll see they do a range of kits starting from just the polisher to the polisher + pads and polish.

HoHoHo

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14,987 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
HoHoHo said:
Ok, I had a look in the garage and I have a dual action £30 rotary polisher which I've not used ever (had it about 3 years, not sure why I bought it back then, but I did!) and I had a go on my truck to see just how difficult this game was - amazing results but a bit wobbly!

Now I haven't used it on the 997 and frankly it has given me white finger having played with it for a couple of hours so I'm prepared to invest in a better polisher to use on the fleet.

Which sort, where from and which polishes?
What do you mean by "dual action £30 rotary polisher" as polishers are usually one or the other.

A proper rotary only spins, there's no "orbit", and if you use it incorrectly it can and will burn through paint quite happily, so if it's one of those don't use it on your 997.

There's a bunch of dual action polishers available, Dodo Juice, DAS6 etc. Take a look at somewhere like www.cleanyourcar.co.uk or www.polishedbliss.co.uk and you'll see they do a range of kits starting from just the polisher to the polisher + pads and polish.
It's a Sealey random orbit polisher if that helps, which if I understand you reply would be ok to use?

That said I'll have a look around the links you provided and buy something that might be mor suitable.

paddyhasneeds

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Does it look like one of these?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sealey+random+orb...

If so, tbh it won't do much. They aren't intended to do anything much with swirls, they're just a means of applying polish a little easier. IMO the bonnets are the problem as they're usually cheap scratchy fabric.

HoHoHo

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14,987 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Something like this here ?

paddyhasneeds

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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HoHoHo said:
Something like this here ?
The one you have now looks like that?

If so, I suspect it's just a sander with a head to take polishing pads. Is the speed variable? If not, that would be my concern, plus, and I'm not sure about this, but I believe the "polishers" that are really just sanders don't have a very wide orbit, making them more like a rotary.

Huge disclaimer that I could be talking out my arse there though!

HoHoHo

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Saturday 30th April 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
Does it look like one of these?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sealey+random+orb...

If so, tbh it won't do much. They aren't intended to do anything much with swirls, they're just a means of applying polish a little easier. IMO the bonnets are the problem as they're usually cheap scratchy fabric.
4th row down on the left yes

The link I mentioned in my next post I found from your links and wondered if that kit would be a good starter/medium term DAP?

paddyhasneeds

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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HoHoHo said:
4th row down on the left yes

The link I mentioned in my next post I found from your links and wondered if that kit would be a good starter/medium term DAP?
Right, with you now. OK so what you have is what I said, just a glorified buffer, it'll apply polish but won't do anything for swirls and depending on the quality of the bonnets may do more harm than good.

With the kit you've listed, what you may want to do is head over to somewhere like detailingworld and do a little digging into pad/polish combo's for Porsche paint. The great thing with a machine like the DAS-6 is that it's almost impossible to do any damage, but what you do want to do is get the right pad and polish combo to make the job as easy as possible - someone may chip in here, but personally I don't have enough experience to say "Use X and Y combo" over "A and B combo".

HoHoHo

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14,987 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
HoHoHo said:
4th row down on the left yes

The link I mentioned in my next post I found from your links and wondered if that kit would be a good starter/medium term DAP?
Right, with you now. OK so what you have is what I said, just a glorified buffer, it'll apply polish but won't do anything for swirls and depending on the quality of the bonnets may do more harm than good.

With the kit you've listed, what you may want to do is head over to somewhere like detailingworld and do a little digging into pad/polish combo's for Porsche paint. The great thing with a machine like the DAS-6 is that it's almost impossible to do any damage, but what you do want to do is get the right pad and polish combo to make the job as easy as possible - someone may chip in here, but personally I don't have enough experience to say "Use X and Y combo" over "A and B combo".
Thanks and will have a look over there.

I understand Porsche paint is medium hard for the current models which is a starting point.

paddyhasneeds

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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HoHoHo said:
Thanks and will have a look over there.

I understand Porsche paint is medium hard for the current models which is a starting point.
That's how I understood it with my 987, never quite had the bottle to tackle it fully though biggrin

Personally from the bit of light polishing that I did do (using a dual action) I'd rate the Menzerna polishes very highly, but that was a while back and things may have moved on. I always used a polishing pad vs. a finishing pad and it seemed to give a great finish with the Menzerna polishes - though I'm an impatient sod and never had the patience to do a full polishing pass followed by a finishing pass.

JFReturns

3,696 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Paddy's advice is good smile

I've got the DAS-6 and use Poorboy's SSR1, SSR2 and SSR3 polishes. Sonus pads. And it is very easy to use.

Start with the softest pad and polish combo and you should be fine.