Bringing over a car to Perth
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I don't think there is anything you could really make money on bringing from Oz to UK - maybe a modified VE SS 400KW or more (warranty void anyway) as they are a very cheap V8 by UK standards with big potential for upping the neddies. Other to consider may be the new Elfin as that looks like a good runner for the popular Caterham style of weekend car over here?
I didn't bring my Coupe over to make money - I did because it was the best car I've ever owned combining style, power, comfort & practcality. PLUS it was the only one in the UK or even Europe as far as I know. Sure there are Munro's & GTO Coupes but mine (now sold to another Aussie over here) is the only C4B Monaro over here as AFAIK. The experience of driving that in the UK was somthing else - totally unique and the best bit was the constant WTF look from w
r M3 (clit car) drivers as you blew them away in what they thought was some fatted up Calibra 
I didn't bring my Coupe over to make money - I did because it was the best car I've ever owned combining style, power, comfort & practcality. PLUS it was the only one in the UK or even Europe as far as I know. Sure there are Munro's & GTO Coupes but mine (now sold to another Aussie over here) is the only C4B Monaro over here as AFAIK. The experience of driving that in the UK was somthing else - totally unique and the best bit was the constant WTF look from w
r M3 (clit car) drivers as you blew them away in what they thought was some fatted up Calibra nickpage said:
is it a bureaucratic nightmare, lots of paperwork, import duty, inspections etc.? Do you have to be a resident to UK?
thanks in advance.
I quite like the M3, well engineered sleeper
nick
Residency not an issue - only thing is how long you owned the car in Oz - must be able to prove 12 months before it left to qualify for personal import. Other restriction is that you cannot sell within 12 months of import unless you want to get pinged for duty & VAT etc. Keep yr rego current in Oz and you can drive over here on Oz plates for as long as you like (technically it must leave the country & re-enter every six months - pop over the channel!) coppers hate it, insurance needs to be soundly clarified but it's a blessing for things like speeding, parking & congestion charge avoidance thanks in advance.
I quite like the M3
, well engineered sleeper nick
M3 - nice car; each to their own - too much engineering; nowhere near as involving as the HSV 'Ro - common as muck over here; as I said "Clit car" cos every c**ts got one.
so, I buy the VE SS, fit the better exhaust system, lower the ride height and ship it out after 12 months.
Then on arrival I can collect the car, pay nothing to customs and drive it, simple as that? Keep the ozzie plates on, visit France after 5 months 29 days for the weekend and after 12 months sell it.....? to you maybe What colour would you like, sir? http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/buildpr...
Then on arrival I can collect the car, pay nothing to customs and drive it, simple as that? Keep the ozzie plates on, visit France after 5 months 29 days for the weekend and after 12 months sell it.....? to you maybe
What colour would you like, sir? http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/buildpr...nickpage said:
so, I buy the VE SS, fit the better exhaust system, lower the ride height and ship it out after 12 months.
Then on arrival I can collect the car, pay nothing to customs and drive it, simple as that? Keep the ozzie plates on, visit France after 5 months 29 days for the weekend and after 12 months sell it.....? to you maybe What colour would you like, sir? http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/buildpr...
great idea but by the time yr 12 months is up I'll be back in Oz with my S/C VE HSV ute Then on arrival I can collect the car, pay nothing to customs and drive it, simple as that? Keep the ozzie plates on, visit France after 5 months 29 days for the weekend and after 12 months sell it.....? to you maybe
What colour would you like, sir? http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/buildpr... (my UK sentence is nearly over)Hi all,
Ive got the same situation and moving to Sydney from the UK in late august. Got a Porsche Boxster that I bought in sept 06 for £15,000 prob worth now in the UK market £13,500.
So the wquestion, if I send it late aug its going to take 40 days to arrive and will just be over the 12 months, will that qualify?
I know the shipping costs £750, Import duty 10% and some smaller quarintine and admin fees. Will they value the car at £15,000 or what they believe it to be in the Ozzie market? also anything else im missing?
Finally what I really want to do is buy and bring a TVR Tuscan. Is there absolutely no way of doing that as I wont of owned it for a year?
Ive got the same situation and moving to Sydney from the UK in late august. Got a Porsche Boxster that I bought in sept 06 for £15,000 prob worth now in the UK market £13,500.
So the wquestion, if I send it late aug its going to take 40 days to arrive and will just be over the 12 months, will that qualify?
I know the shipping costs £750, Import duty 10% and some smaller quarintine and admin fees. Will they value the car at £15,000 or what they believe it to be in the Ozzie market? also anything else im missing?
Finally what I really want to do is buy and bring a TVR Tuscan. Is there absolutely no way of doing that as I wont of owned it for a year?
You should get import approval before you even ship your car really. You can chance it but if there is any problem with the approval process then you'll have to ship the car out of the country and hope that they will allow it to be imported back in again.
I'm just about to put a Tuscan into a container for Sydney. I got personal import approval back in Feb this year but it took nearly 2 months of back and forwarding with them wanting extra information and documentations. Although it should take about 2 to 3 weeks normally.
The cost of shipping and custom clearing will be around £800 for RORO plus another £400 minimum up to nearly £1000 for custom clearance and wharf handing charges etc plus optional valuation fees £200 plus quarantine charges (£100). Then you will have to pay around 23% of the landed value in duty and GST. Then assuming there is no compliance issue with your car then there is stamp duty for the car at 3% to 5% of the landed value depending on which state you want to register the car then plus registration fees and insurance.
You should find out what the same model boxer will cost in Oz and do your sums from there.
I'm just about to put a Tuscan into a container for Sydney. I got personal import approval back in Feb this year but it took nearly 2 months of back and forwarding with them wanting extra information and documentations. Although it should take about 2 to 3 weeks normally.
The cost of shipping and custom clearing will be around £800 for RORO plus another £400 minimum up to nearly £1000 for custom clearance and wharf handing charges etc plus optional valuation fees £200 plus quarantine charges (£100). Then you will have to pay around 23% of the landed value in duty and GST. Then assuming there is no compliance issue with your car then there is stamp duty for the car at 3% to 5% of the landed value depending on which state you want to register the car then plus registration fees and insurance.
You should find out what the same model boxer will cost in Oz and do your sums from there.
Don't know about the need/requirement to gain advanced approval? If its a personal import of a migrant arriving here with the correct visa stamped in passport, that is enough to be eligible to bring a car with you.
What I'd like to stress is - your ownership of a full 12 months/one calendar year BEFORE you ship. Very important!!! Also if its a personal import, the ADR (australian design rules) specs do not apply. Each state has slightly different rules, you may need to fit a KPH speedo. All I had to do with the Cerbera was fit rear harness points on back parcel shelf for a child's seat.
Also you have the option of getting the vehicle valued here by customs on arrival, which might be lower than a UK valuation. Better chance of that with a Tuscan than a Boxster, due to rarity, and one sold her, the other not sold here.
What I'd like to stress is - your ownership of a full 12 months/one calendar year BEFORE you ship. Very important!!! Also if its a personal import, the ADR (australian design rules) specs do not apply. Each state has slightly different rules, you may need to fit a KPH speedo. All I had to do with the Cerbera was fit rear harness points on back parcel shelf for a child's seat.
Also you have the option of getting the vehicle valued here by customs on arrival, which might be lower than a UK valuation. Better chance of that with a Tuscan than a Boxster, due to rarity, and one sold her, the other not sold here.
onny, why are you using a sea container? RORO is much better, easier and cheaper plus the vehicle is safe inside the ship not out on deck being sprayed with salt water. I've also heard a fibreglass car in a sweaty, airless sea container can present problems with the electrics. Just my thoughts and humble opinion.
nick
nick
Hiya Nick,
At this stage I'm not definite about using a container. I have some other personal stuff to ship with me. But this morning I've managed to find a courier that will ship the 18 suitcases worth of stuff that I have for less than £400 all the way to Canberra, which is an absolute bargain. So I have between now and end of June to figure out how to ship the car.
The main reason I'm not leaning towards RORO is the battery won't last the 5 weeks or more that the car is on the boat, I've got a new battery and its only good for about 2 to 3 weeks but any longer without using the car, it won't have enough power to kick her over. The battery being behind the wheel arch, there's little of no chance for then to get a battery jumper to it. Unless I can get them to disconnect the battery when they load the car on to the ferry.
I've had conflicting stories from friends about RORO, I had a friend that shipped an Elan over earlier this year using RORO and they managed to break his roof because they didn't know how to get into his car to drive it off the ferry at Singapore docks. I can image them trying to get into the Tuscan now. I've also had a number of friends who'd used RORO to ship cars over to Oz from Japan and they can't fault it and its much cheaper as well when docks and handling charges are added to a container. So I don't know what to do now.
Has anyone got any experience with RORO with TVR or other 'Not' standard cars?
Thanks
Onny.
At this stage I'm not definite about using a container. I have some other personal stuff to ship with me. But this morning I've managed to find a courier that will ship the 18 suitcases worth of stuff that I have for less than £400 all the way to Canberra, which is an absolute bargain. So I have between now and end of June to figure out how to ship the car.
The main reason I'm not leaning towards RORO is the battery won't last the 5 weeks or more that the car is on the boat, I've got a new battery and its only good for about 2 to 3 weeks but any longer without using the car, it won't have enough power to kick her over. The battery being behind the wheel arch, there's little of no chance for then to get a battery jumper to it. Unless I can get them to disconnect the battery when they load the car on to the ferry.
I've had conflicting stories from friends about RORO, I had a friend that shipped an Elan over earlier this year using RORO and they managed to break his roof because they didn't know how to get into his car to drive it off the ferry at Singapore docks. I can image them trying to get into the Tuscan now. I've also had a number of friends who'd used RORO to ship cars over to Oz from Japan and they can't fault it and its much cheaper as well when docks and handling charges are added to a container. So I don't know what to do now.
Has anyone got any experience with RORO with TVR or other 'Not' standard cars?
Thanks
Onny.
We went with a dedicated 40ft container for bringing the Chim and our belongings over in one shipment. I looked into RORO quite a bit and took advice from a few friends who work in shipping and decided the container was the better way forward despite the extra cost.
With the container approach you can be present when the car is loaded up, strapped down and secured into place. We mitigated any concerns of the moisture in the air effecting the leather/electrics by putting a small mountain of silica gel bags in both the car and with/around the boxes to keep everything as dry as possible. The battery can be disconnected once you have driven it in too if that's a concern as the car isn't going to me moved.
The main selling point of the container was the fact that once the doors had been closed and the customs seal applied that was it completely untouched until it arrived into Melbourne and was re-opened in my presense. To the point that it was me who drove the car into the container in the UK and me who drove it back out again in Australia. With RORO you will have the car being driven several times by the dock handling staff and personally that was really not something i was comfortable with. Waaaaay too much scope for engine damage to be done if they decide to over rev the car from cold to see how it sounds etc.
Only other thing to bear in mind is to make sure the vehicle is fully steam cleaned before it gets shipped, especially underneath, the tyres, wheel arches etc. This can save you a whole load of grief when it hits shore and goes through its quaranteen inspection. Mine made it straight through with no issues because it was absolutely spotless when it went in which cut a load of processing time off not having to have it re-cleaned here.
Cheers
Al
With the container approach you can be present when the car is loaded up, strapped down and secured into place. We mitigated any concerns of the moisture in the air effecting the leather/electrics by putting a small mountain of silica gel bags in both the car and with/around the boxes to keep everything as dry as possible. The battery can be disconnected once you have driven it in too if that's a concern as the car isn't going to me moved.
The main selling point of the container was the fact that once the doors had been closed and the customs seal applied that was it completely untouched until it arrived into Melbourne and was re-opened in my presense. To the point that it was me who drove the car into the container in the UK and me who drove it back out again in Australia. With RORO you will have the car being driven several times by the dock handling staff and personally that was really not something i was comfortable with. Waaaaay too much scope for engine damage to be done if they decide to over rev the car from cold to see how it sounds etc.
Only other thing to bear in mind is to make sure the vehicle is fully steam cleaned before it gets shipped, especially underneath, the tyres, wheel arches etc. This can save you a whole load of grief when it hits shore and goes through its quaranteen inspection. Mine made it straight through with no issues because it was absolutely spotless when it went in which cut a load of processing time off not having to have it re-cleaned here.
Cheers
Al
I am emigrating to Perth in just over a year and intend to take over a 2004 CL55. Australian dealer prices are circa $AUD200K, whereas you can pick up a UK model for circa £35K.
I would plan to keep the car for a few years, and sell hopefully depreciation free.
I would be really interested in anyones experiences of the modifications required to the car - eg do you need to change the speedo?
Does anyone have experience of actual valuations of personal imports against official imports? I read everywhere that they are lower (as the Perth Merc dealer told me also, no surprise), but haven't been able to find any actual evidence.
Any views / experience / advice would be much appreciated.
Best regards,
Marcus.
I would plan to keep the car for a few years, and sell hopefully depreciation free.
I would be really interested in anyones experiences of the modifications required to the car - eg do you need to change the speedo?
Does anyone have experience of actual valuations of personal imports against official imports? I read everywhere that they are lower (as the Perth Merc dealer told me also, no surprise), but haven't been able to find any actual evidence.
Any views / experience / advice would be much appreciated.
Best regards,
Marcus.
Just a few questions on this is anyone can help:
I now live in Perth as an Australian Resident.
Can I
a) Ship a car over from the UK that i have just bought over there and if so what are the costs etc
b) Can i buy a car over in the uk, register it in my name over there, let my FIL run round in it for a year and then ship it over under the 12month rule, or do i have to physically be using it in the uk myself?
I now live in Perth as an Australian Resident.
Can I
a) Ship a car over from the UK that i have just bought over there and if so what are the costs etc
b) Can i buy a car over in the uk, register it in my name over there, let my FIL run round in it for a year and then ship it over under the 12month rule, or do i have to physically be using it in the uk myself?
1. Depending on the car you want to buy and export straight away. If its not a personal import then it will need to compliance via SEV. You can only bring in cars that are on the DOTAR SEV register which has a lot of nice cars on this list but the problems is that you will be really pushing to get someone in Oz that will be eligible to compliance most of the cars on the list. Most of the compliance are geared to Japanese cars like Skylines Silvia etc.
2. You will have to be living in the UK for at least 9 of the 12 previous months. When you apply for a personal import you will need to send in photo copies of all pages of your passport. They can tell where you've been living because of that.
2. You will have to be living in the UK for at least 9 of the 12 previous months. When you apply for a personal import you will need to send in photo copies of all pages of your passport. They can tell where you've been living because of that.
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