How many left of your car?

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bob1179

14,107 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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309 GTi - 76 left licensed on the road.

300 SE - around 800! Not bad for a car that has been out of production since 1991!

smile

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I can't even find Jag XJ40s on it, the only XJ6 3.2S it shows starts in '94 so must be a X300.

Riley Blue

20,958 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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bob1179 said:
309 GTi - 76 left licensed on the road.

300 SE - around 800! Not bad for a car that has been out of production since 1991!

smile
Did you check the figure for the Morris 1000? It's been out of production since 1970, there are over 10,000 left.

M3John

5,974 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Riley Blue said:
dbdb said:
RichB said:
Not this old chestnut again, the info on the web site is crap so it's not worth debating how rare your car is. It's nonsense...
Its not accurate to the last car, but I believe it gives a general feel for the rough number of any car left - maybe accurate to +/-50 or so, since it is dependent on inputted data which may not have been entered fully accurately. That's much better than nothing though.
Take the Riley 1½ and Riley 1.5; though both very different post-war cars, it confuses the two and even lists some as being pre-war.
According to the website my car doesn't even exist.

RichB

51,588 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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dbdb said:
RichB said:
Not this old chestnut again, the info on the web site is crap so it's not worth debating how rare your car is. It's nonsense...
Its not accurate to the last car, but I believe it gives a general feel for the rough number of any car left - maybe accurate to +/-50 or so, since it is dependent on inputted data which may not have been entered fully accurately. That's much better than nothing though.
I disagree, as you say it depends on accurate data something it doesn't have. As they say, garbage in/garbage out. The results for early Aston Martins, something i know enough about, are a joke. On this basis I have no faith in any of the other results. Still it provides hours of fun on car forums biggrin

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Hooli said:
I can't even find Jag XJ40s on it, the only XJ6 3.2S it shows starts in '94 so must be a X300.
It does show xj40s for but just a 3.2.Odd that no 2.9 or 3.6
Damiler xj40s are also listed
http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/jaguar_xj6_3....

80quattro

1,726 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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BMW M535i's are a strange one, depending upon how the model designation is spaced. Total all in is 97 - a drop from 127 last year, quite a large percentage drop.

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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80quattro said:
BMW M535i's are a strange one, depending upon how the model designation is spaced. Total all in is 97 - a drop from 127 last year, quite a large percentage drop.
Depends if you mean E12 or E28 -the total of these are @326 in combined stats.
There seems to 283 E28s in total.
......If my maths/methodology is correct.

hilarystone

32 posts

147 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Citroen Visa GTi 4 on the road (probably actually 5 now) and 13 on Sorn Probably about 900 originally sold in the UK

Citroen BX 16V 31 on the road another 80 or so on Sorn

Citroen BX 4x4 GTI 5 on the road 14 on Sorn

Citroen AX GTI 27 on the road 40 ob Sorn

Citroen Xantia Activa 47 on the road 38 on Sorn


Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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hilarystone said:
Citroen BX 16V 31 on the road another 80 or so on Sorn
Saw one of those last weekend (taxed and being used) at my parent's place smile - E reg

Think you also have to search for BX GTI 8v/16v to find some missing 16v models as there were 2 model codes in DVLA data depending on whether it's a p1 or p2

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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Adrian E said:
hilarystone said:
Citroen BX 16V 31 on the road another 80 or so on Sorn
Saw one of those last weekend (taxed and being used) at my parent's place smile - E reg

Think you also have to search for BX GTI 8v/16v to find some missing 16v models as there were 2 model codes in DVLA data depending on whether it's a p1 or p2
The figures he has given ARE for GTI 16v
BX 16v just brings up... 0 (which can't be right)
Officially afaik all P2s were just 16v - but DVLA ,or rather Citroen dealers, registered them as GTI 16v

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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Sorry, was late when I typed that and wasn't very clear

There are 2 DVLA 'model codes' that relate to the 16V - #235 relates to the 'BX GTI 16V', #384 relates to 'BX 16V'

These codes are issued in sequence to car manufacturers to identify a new trim level, so you get a few new BX trims, then some XM, AX, ZX etc etc.

In total there are 70 unique codes for the Citroen BX.

When I first looked at this for an owners club the info was as follows:

[quote]It would appear that the 'BX 16V' model code was barely used - it may well reflect the number of catalyst equipped cars, rather than a distinction between p1/p2.

I don't have total numbers registered, but back in q4 1994 there were 3430 'BX GTI 16V' licensed, and only 2 'BX 16V' - however, rather strange this, the maximum number of 'BX 16V' entries isn't reached until q4 1998, when a grand total of 9 are licensed

Of the 'BX GTI 16V' entries, the numbers drop VERY quickly. From that headline figure of 3430, we get down to 1517 by the end of 2000 (by which time there's 8 'BX 16V' entries, a year later and it's 1013/6, then 612/4.

The most up to date figures are for the end of q2 2010. At this time, there are:

Licensed:
BX GTI 16V - 72
BX 16V - 1

SORNed:
BX GTI 16V - 66
BX 16V - 1

So a fair guesstimate of numbers left in existence in the UK would be no more than ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY!!!!

I'm really shocked at that, but it really does point to why you don't see another as regularly as you might have done in years gone by. Certainly when I bought my old p2 in 2000 there were still almost 50% of the numbers registered still around. By my calculations, that figure is now around 4%!!
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Given the figure of 140 was from 2010 it doesn't surprise me there's 110 or so now

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I recall those model codes but they don't seem to be on HML anymore.
I thought they would be handy for model generations - but then why not use the makers code anyway E12, E28, W124 ,W220 etc?
However , i recall DVLA giving a rather vague and bland and odd explanation for the codes along the lines of (my interpretation)" only of internal use for dvla and nothing to do with differentiating same nameplates"

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I only have them because I worked in dept for transport and was asked a few times to categorise new model types by size class for in-house statistical analysis of accident data - being a well known car fanatic had me marked for what was a pretty dull job though!

wedgeinald

1,309 posts

190 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Hooli said:
I can't even find Jag XJ40s on it, the only XJ6 3.2S it shows starts in '94 so must be a X300.
If you go into the individual section you can click a link that shows you the years of manafacture or first registration

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/jaguar_xj6_3....

Shows you the XJ6 3.2 Auto and most of them are XJ40 1990-1993 but a few after, you'll need to do this for each section and that will give you more of an idea

GHW

1,294 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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tali1 said:
I recall those model codes but they don't seem to be on HML anymore.
I thought they would be handy for model generations - but then why not use the makers code anyway E12, E28, W124 ,W220 etc?
However , i recall DVLA giving a rather vague and bland and odd explanation for the codes along the lines of (my interpretation)" only of internal use for dvla and nothing to do with differentiating same nameplates"
DfT were asked to remove the model codes from their published stats (which are what I use to populate the database for howmanyleft). I think SMMT may have objected to them being released..

santona1937

736 posts

130 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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35 of one of mine left allegedly, 20 on the road and 15 licensed.
Trafic HDS.
There's about 20 of the Lancia left
and 28 of the Alfa 155.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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269 left out of 442 built. Not a bad survival rate.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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wedgeinald said:
Hooli said:
I can't even find Jag XJ40s on it, the only XJ6 3.2S it shows starts in '94 so must be a X300.
If you go into the individual section you can click a link that shows you the years of manafacture or first registration

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/jaguar_xj6_3....

Shows you the XJ6 3.2 Auto and most of them are XJ40 1990-1993 but a few after, you'll need to do this for each section and that will give you more of an idea
1 left eh? somehow I doubt that slightly....

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Hooli said:
1 left eh? somehow I doubt that slightly....
You're reading the data wrong - that's one 1996 registered car.

If you click on the tax/SORN tab you'll see there's a total of 406 on the road and a further 359 SORNd. That number will fluctuate seasonally for those that tax and use for 6 months and put away for the winter