Mk2 Cortina Savage

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Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Legacywr said:
Off to have a new loom fitted smile



Don’t ps off the recovery driver!!


Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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QuadCamCapri said:
Unweder said:
Nicely done smokin fading fast carb skills biggrin got a lot of respect for the Weber way of metering fuel
Thanks, yes a long time since I played with carbs., last one I did was a Weber 48IDA, opened out to 50, with 39mm chokes, now that really did wake the Essex V6 up smile
I don’t know if I have mentioned it on this thread before, but one of the ghetto mods locally for the Essex V6 was to fit modified landrover 2.25L inlet valves.

This was back when tuning parts were rare and engineering people did private jobs in their lunch hours.

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Hol said:
Don’t ps off the recovery driver!!


Do you know him?

Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Legacywr said:
Hol said:
Don’t ps off the recovery driver!!


Do you know him?
He is wearing a Biffa Bacon hat.




SS427 Camaro

6,490 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I once knew a guy who owned a Savage Estate many years ago. One dark night in the early 1970s, on an unlit section of the A1, some traveler types had stolen a car, but it had broken down and they had abandoned it. The Savage ploughed straight into the rear of the abandoned car. The driver wasnt wearing a seat belt and he went through the screen and ended up face down on the bonnet. How he survived is a miracle.

final_edition

653 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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final_edition said:
Found some pics of my aubergine mk2 Savage. Sold it in late'02/early'03 for £350. All it needed was the exhaust repairing.

Checked on askmid and it's still insured.

Who's got NRX 290F now?
I had an email from a person on here asking about info on it.

Here are some ropey pics I have.




Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Thanks for posting smile

Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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I see 2002/2003 written down and I consider it recent history, but in reality it has been 20 years.

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Is that an SE6a in the background too?

I came across an e-mail from 2014 with pictures of my old 2 door Mk2, taken just prior to its theft from the then owner from Nottingham area IIRC, while he was away on holiday. I sold it mid-to-late 90's needing work for £750, and it headed to Cornwall. Following a colour change from the deep red when I had it to the ubiquitous Ermine white with green stripe, which coincided with the person I sold it to converting it to V6 power, it then changed hands for £7.5k but unfortunately was never seen after the theft.

it was a 1300 Deluxe originally, but converted to 1600LC to help tow a trailer tent around France by the owner before me, but retained the 1300 diff ratio. I used and abused it while at Uni, swapping engines depending on which one wasn't broken, and fitted the 'correct' diff for the engine! I had a 711M block bored out 90 thou (to make 1660cc if memory serves, although that might've been the engine after than one which had a 60 thou overbore on an original block) with an Emerald P3 cam. It was rather peaky and actually snapped the original valve gear due to the stupid valve lift! I'd also swapped the gearbox for a '3 rail' which meant pulling away in 1st was a bit of a chore, as 1st was so high.

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Mines still away to have its new loom fitted, which is being a little troublesome, they are practically having to custom make it, as there isn’t a Series 1 loom available off the shelf.

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Friday 29th March
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Thought you might be interested in seeing this…

https://deanemotors.ie/product/lotus-cortina-mk2-c...

fttm

3,688 posts

135 months

Friday 29th March
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That advert says only 12 mk2s were converted , more than that surely ?

aeropilot

34,605 posts

227 months

Friday 29th March
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fttm said:
That advert says only 12 mk2s were converted , more than that surely ?
From memory Crayford's records still exist, so if they say they only made 12 then......they only made 12.

Must admit, I never realised Crayford did any V6 conversions of saloons, I though they only did convertible conversions, and it was only Uren and Superspeed that did V6 conversions.

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Friday 29th March
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I was offered a Crayford when I bought my Savage, a very well known maroon 2 door.

This one…



Edited by Legacywr on Friday 29th March 17:17

markymarkthree

2,269 posts

171 months

Friday 29th March
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12 sounds about right, as most folk would have gone to Race Proved or Superspeed for a V6 conversion.

I smell a rat, as that engine is a later Essex and wouldn't have gone in a Mk2 in 69.

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Friday 29th March
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markymarkthree said:
12 sounds about right, as most folk would have gone to Race Proved or Superspeed for a V6 conversion.

I smell a rat, as that engine is a later Essex and wouldn't have gone in a Mk2 in 69.
I wouldn’t let it worry me, my Savage had its first replacement engine in the early 70’s.

markymarkthree

2,269 posts

171 months

Friday 29th March
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Legacywr said:
markymarkthree said:
12 sounds about right, as most folk would have gone to Race Proved or Superspeed for a V6 conversion.

I smell a rat, as that engine is a later Essex and wouldn't have gone in a Mk2 in 69.
I wouldn’t let it worry me, my Savage had its first replacement engine in the early 70’s.
Well i am glad my Savage has the original Essex fitted. smile

Legacywr

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12,136 posts

188 months

Friday 29th March
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markymarkthree said:
Well i am glad my Savage has the original Essex fitted. smile
That’s quite rare, have we seen pics of yours?

TarquinMX5

1,945 posts

80 months

Friday 29th March
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aeropilot said:
fttm said:
That advert says only 12 mk2s were converted , more than that surely ?
From memory Crayford's records still exist, so if they say they only made 12 then......they only made 12.

Must admit, I never realised Crayford did any V6 conversions of saloons, I though they only did convertible conversions, and it was only Uren and Superspeed that did V6 conversions.
A reference I have states 'no sure numbers', with the majority going to Spain and not heard of again, though four believed to survive; they were called V6 Cortina Diplomat (Diplomat Junior has fuel-injected 1.6). The V6 Diplomats were fitted with Vauxhall FD grilles and 4-headlamps and the ones in a photo are fitted with what appear to be Cosmic alloys, though I doubt that there was a standard spec..

However, as most conversions were done on 'secondhand' cars (ie owner bought the car and took it straight to Crayford) to save car tax on the conversion, and as they converted 20 MK2 Cortina Lotus convertibles it's perfectly feasible that an owner had a Lotus converted to V6.

There was also at least one V6 Crayford Cortina MK2 Coupé (looks like a 2-door with the D-pillar removed but with a std rear side windows, and a Cortina windscreen as the rear window (std front grille/lights); somewhat unbalanced IMHO.

(There were also S. African Ford-approved V6 Cortina MK2 Peranas, approx 200-250 built, based on the 1600GT)

aeropilot

34,605 posts

227 months

Friday 29th March
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TarquinMX5 said:
However, as most conversions were done on 'secondhand' cars (ie owner bought the car and took it straight to Crayford) to save car tax on the conversion, and as they converted 20 MK2 Cortina Lotus convertibles it's perfectly feasible that an owner had a Lotus converted to V6.
I find it odd that anyone paid the not inconsiderable premium for the era, for a Lotus and then want to pay out even more to have a boat anchor put in the place of the Twink...... instead of just buying a 2-dr GT and binning the X-Flow for the Essex.

Madness silly