"Classic Car Rescue" Channel 5 on Mon 24th Sep 20:00

[rigga]

e21Mark said:

They're fond of the F word - filler!

I'd love the programme makers to see this thread.

I sent them a link to this one and the one running in the TV section the morning after the first episode aired,it wasn't very complimentary at that point never mind now

[S0 What]

radlet6 said:

S0 What said:

Lol even my missus laughed at that oh so fake screen drop, TBH i think the dog even walked away but he may have just farted? although it did look like he hated the program as well?
I turned off very soon after the screen crap action incident and wont be watching again, not my thing but i spose some might like it?

Oh you have to. I have heard that the Chuckle Brothers make a guest appearance to fit a V6 Ford into a mini.

To me; to you; to me........

now if the the dangerous brothers made an apperance i'd watch that, here bernie hold this red candle,,,,, boom! yay bye Berie

[lowdrag]

Do you, like me, feel liberated? I didn't watch it.

[Riley Blue]

Nor me.

[gifdy]

I did. It's liking picking a scab which then bleeds. You know you shouldn't, you know you won't enjoy it and you'll regret it afterwards....but you've got to do it.

[S2Mike]

Winky151 said:

AndyLeysh said:

However, if my winning streak continues and I hit the jackpot tonight I'll ask Bernie and Mario if they can restore this to concourse for me;







Should keep them off the telly for a bit...

Have you not heard. The biggest expense is labour so that'd be completed in 3 weeks. Personally I wouldn't want to drive it after but ....

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I reckon that is a step too far for them, there is no red aerosol paint on it, and no sign of a webasto roof, so its too good for them.

[AndyLeysh]

Just posted on the CCR site:


http://www.channel5.com/shows/classic-car-rescue/e...


Malcolm Clark
Hey dear guys and girls, to the people who liked the shows, many thanks. I was the series producer on the series.To those who didn't enjoy I'm really sorry. I'd have preferred it if you did obviously. It wasn't any part of our intention to suggest the trade was like Bernie and Mario, and I really don't think any viewer was left with the impression that professional restorers would behave like our presenters. No-one seriously thinks that if they take their MGB to a professional restorer it's going to be done in as rushed a way as our guys had to do it, or that the same things will happen (never mind all the rows). Apologies if anyone has really had ordinary customers seem confused about the reality of the trade. My brother in law who's a car nut was disappointed too, and wanted more detailed information on "how to restore cars" I had to explain to him, that's not what this show is about. This is an entertaining series aimed at a general audience, not just classic car enthusiasts alone. It has rated really well by the way with 1.1million people for almost all the shows which is a good audience for its slot and one that hasn't dropped so someone's liking it (probably younger people who want to be entertained as well as learn a little bit about cars?). Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing in the long run for the trade- a whole bunch of younger people getting turned on by classic cars...! By the way, we weren't ignoring the comments, here, and sorry if it felt like this- we were literally finishing the shows. The series has been made very quickly to a very tight schedule. In fact i just got back from Canada where we finished the Cadillac edit on Friday and the mini show has yet to be delivered! Gulp. Hence the delay in replying. I'm happy to answer questions if it helps. Many thanks for feeling strongly enough to comment (both good and bad). Even if it wasn't the intention comments help create a buzz (of some sort!) around a series.

[tr7v8]

I did it differently I complained to Adrian Fluxes PR Co. And got this back.

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your email. Yes, we have noted the issues that have been raised on a number of motoring forums and you're not the first person to email me your thoughts.

As you probably know, Adrian Flux's involvement in the show is solely limited to sponsorship and we have no control or input into the content. Neither do we get to see the programmes before they are broadcast.

I think it's fair to say that the programme is aimed more at entertainment than a professional how-to guide. Anyway, clearly the reasons for sponsoring this programme were down to the exposure to a demographic that would be likely to need classic car insurance, or car enthusiasts in general. We've taken your comments on board and will be interested to see the reaction to the remainder of the series.

Regards,
Matt

[mph]

tr7v8 said:

I did it differently I complained to Adrian Fluxes PR Co. And got this back.

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your email. Yes, we have noted the issues that have been raised on a number of motoring forums and you're not the first person to email me your thoughts.

As you probably know, Adrian Flux's involvement in the show is solely limited to sponsorship and we have no control or input into the content. Neither do we get to see the programmes before they are broadcast.

I think it's fair to say that the programme is aimed more at entertainment than a professional how-to guide. Anyway, clearly the reasons for sponsoring this programme were down to the exposure to a demographic that would be likely to need classic car insurance, or car enthusiasts in general. We've taken your comments on board and will be interested to see the reaction to the remainder of the series.

Regards,
Matt

I'm quite surprised that sponsors have no idea of the content or quality of the program they're sponsoring.

[radlet6]

mph said:

I'm quite surprised that sponsors have no idea of the content or quality of the program they're sponsoring.

Exactly right. I think the CEO might just be asking the marketing department WTF they were thinking of.

Their association with this programme will do their reputation no good at all.

[radlet6]

AndyLeysh said:

Just posted on the CCR site:


http://www.channel5.com/shows/classic-car-rescue/e...


Malcolm Clark
Hey dear guys and girls, to the people who liked the shows, many thanks. I was the series producer on the series.To those who didn't enjoy I'm really sorry. I'd have preferred it if you did obviously. It wasn't any part of our intention to suggest the trade was like Bernie and Mario, and I really don't think any viewer was left with the impression that professional restorers would behave like our presenters. No-one seriously thinks that if they take their MGB to a professional restorer it's going to be done in as rushed a way as our guys had to do it, or that the same things will happen (never mind all the rows). Apologies if anyone has really had ordinary customers seem confused about the reality of the trade. My brother in law who's a car nut was disappointed too, and wanted more detailed information on "how to restore cars" I had to explain to him, that's not what this show is about. This is an entertaining series aimed at a general audience, not just classic car enthusiasts alone. It has rated really well by the way with 1.1million people for almost all the shows which is a good audience for its slot and one that hasn't dropped so someone's liking it (probably younger people who want to be entertained as well as learn a little bit about cars?). Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing in the long run for the trade- a whole bunch of younger people getting turned on by classic cars...! By the way, we weren't ignoring the comments, here, and sorry if it felt like this- we were literally finishing the shows. The series has been made very quickly to a very tight schedule. In fact i just got back from Canada where we finished the Cadillac edit on Friday and the mini show has yet to be delivered! Gulp. Hence the delay in replying. I'm happy to answer questions if it helps. Many thanks for feeling strongly enough to comment (both good and bad). Even if it wasn't the intention comments help create a buzz (of some sort!) around a series.

Well guys and girls I think this response,
and it's tone, says it all.

On a tight schedule eh? Maybe they only had three weeks to shoot the whole series. Gulp!

Come back Mike Brewer, all is forgiven.

[Riley Blue]

radlet6 said:

mph said:

I'm quite surprised that sponsors have no idea of the content or quality of the program they're sponsoring.

Exactly right. I think the CEO might just be asking the marketing department WTF they were thinking of.

Their association with this programme will do their reputation no good at all.

Posters here regard it as good entertainment, the fact that it's rubbish in terms of accurately representing classic car restoration obviously doesn't matter. Channel 5 and the series sponsors must be rubbing their hands together in delight at all the internet coverage it's getting.

[e21Mark]

radlet6 said:

AndyLeysh said:

Just posted on the CCR site:


http://www.channel5.com/shows/classic-car-rescue/e...


Malcolm Clark
Hey dear guys and girls, to the people who liked the shows, many thanks. I was the series producer on the series.To those who didn't enjoy I'm really sorry. I'd have preferred it if you did obviously. It wasn't any part of our intention to suggest the trade was like Bernie and Mario, and I really don't think any viewer was left with the impression that professional restorers would behave like our presenters. No-one seriously thinks that if they take their MGB to a professional restorer it's going to be done in as rushed a way as our guys had to do it, or that the same things will happen (never mind all the rows). Apologies if anyone has really had ordinary customers seem confused about the reality of the trade. My brother in law who's a car nut was disappointed too, and wanted more detailed information on "how to restore cars" I had to explain to him, that's not what this show is about. This is an entertaining series aimed at a general audience, not just classic car enthusiasts alone. It has rated really well by the way with 1.1million people for almost all the shows which is a good audience for its slot and one that hasn't dropped so someone's liking it (probably younger people who want to be entertained as well as learn a little bit about cars?). Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing in the long run for the trade- a whole bunch of younger people getting turned on by classic cars...! By the way, we weren't ignoring the comments, here, and sorry if it felt like this- we were literally finishing the shows. The series has been made very quickly to a very tight schedule. In fact i just got back from Canada where we finished the Cadillac edit on Friday and the mini show has yet to be delivered! Gulp. Hence the delay in replying. I'm happy to answer questions if it helps. Many thanks for feeling strongly enough to comment (both good and bad). Even if it wasn't the intention comments help create a buzz (of some sort!) around a series.

Well guys and girls I think this response,
and it's tone, says it all.

On a tight schedule eh? Maybe they only had three weeks to shoot the whole series. Gulp!

Come back Mike Brewer, all is forgiven.

Just pray there's not a 2nd series! Gulp!

[Liquid Knight]

e21Mark said:

radlet6 said:

AndyLeysh said:

Just posted on the CCR site:


http://www.channel5.com/shows/classic-car-rescue/e...


Malcolm Clark
Hey dear guys and girls, to the people who liked the shows, many thanks. I was the series producer on the series.To those who didn't enjoy I'm really sorry. I'd have preferred it if you did obviously. It wasn't any part of our intention to suggest the trade was like Bernie and Mario, and I really don't think any viewer was left with the impression that professional restorers would behave like our presenters. No-one seriously thinks that if they take their MGB to a professional restorer it's going to be done in as rushed a way as our guys had to do it, or that the same things will happen (never mind all the rows). Apologies if anyone has really had ordinary customers seem confused about the reality of the trade. My brother in law who's a car nut was disappointed too, and wanted more detailed information on "how to restore cars" I had to explain to him, that's not what this show is about. This is an entertaining series aimed at a general audience, not just classic car enthusiasts alone. It has rated really well by the way with 1.1million people for almost all the shows which is a good audience for its slot and one that hasn't dropped so someone's liking it (probably younger people who want to be entertained as well as learn a little bit about cars?). Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing in the long run for the trade- a whole bunch of younger people getting turned on by classic cars...! By the way, we weren't ignoring the comments, here, and sorry if it felt like this- we were literally finishing the shows. The series has been made very quickly to a very tight schedule. In fact i just got back from Canada where we finished the Cadillac edit on Friday and the mini show has yet to be delivered! Gulp. Hence the delay in replying. I'm happy to answer questions if it helps. Many thanks for feeling strongly enough to comment (both good and bad). Even if it wasn't the intention comments help create a buzz (of some sort!) around a series.

Well guys and girls I think this response,
and it's tone, says it all.

On a tight schedule eh? Maybe they only had three weeks to shoot the whole series. Gulp!

Come back Mike Brewer, all is forgiven.

Just pray there's not a 2nd series! Gulp!

As I mentioned before it should have a warning at the beginning stating the program is for "entertainment purposes only and can in no way be considered factual".

[radlet6]

This is a good point, which I somehow missed before, especially in the light of the producer's comments about 'turning on younger people to classic cars'; who now believe, thanks to this series, that you can do a full concours restoration on a basket case MGB for around £5,000 in under 3 weeks - and then turn a profit.

The truth of the matter is that even restoring to condition 1 will often cost more than the car is worth. A fine example of this is the MGB and the E Type restored by Mark Wallace. I think the latter cost him the sharp end of 60 grand - and he did a fair amount of the work himself.

Gulp!

[jamesatcandsc]

AndyLeysh said:

Just posted on the CCR site:


http://www.channel5.com/shows/classic-car-rescue/e...


Malcolm Clark
Hey dear guys and girls, to the people who liked the shows, many thanks. I was the series producer on the series.To those who didn't enjoy I'm really sorry. I'd have preferred it if you did obviously. It wasn't any part of our intention to suggest the trade was like Bernie and Mario, and I really don't think any viewer was left with the impression that professional restorers would behave like our presenters. No-one seriously thinks that if they take their MGB to a professional restorer it's going to be done in as rushed a way as our guys had to do it, or that the same things will happen (never mind all the rows). Apologies if anyone has really had ordinary customers seem confused about the reality of the trade. My brother in law who's a car nut was disappointed too, and wanted more detailed information on "how to restore cars" I had to explain to him, that's not what this show is about. This is an entertaining series aimed at a general audience, not just classic car enthusiasts alone. It has rated really well by the way with 1.1million people for almost all the shows which is a good audience for its slot and one that hasn't dropped so someone's liking it (probably younger people who want to be entertained as well as learn a little bit about cars?). Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing in the long run for the trade- a whole bunch of younger people getting turned on by classic cars...! By the way, we weren't ignoring the comments, here, and sorry if it felt like this- we were literally finishing the shows. The series has been made very quickly to a very tight schedule. In fact i just got back from Canada where we finished the Cadillac edit on Friday and the mini show has yet to be delivered! Gulp. Hence the delay in replying. I'm happy to answer questions if it helps. Many thanks for feeling strongly enough to comment (both good and bad). Even if it wasn't the intention comments help create a buzz (of some sort!) around a series.

Excellent.
Now he has some time he might be able to respond to my request for an interview about the programme that hasn't been responded to since 25 September.
Mind you, I am not sure I have the stomach for it anymore.

[mph]

As I've mentioned previously I've watched probably dozens of U.S. "entertainment" car shows.

Several follow a similar format of restoring/customising a car in a very tight time frame. Some of the shows carry out the work without the knowledge of the owner - in a similar way to some of the house renovation programs.

The cars are restored or customised by professionals (sometimes the very best in the business) and the end result is a good product. They still find ways to inject humour and pace into the show.

I am absolutely baffled what anyone finds humorous about these two clowns carrying on like some second-rate slapstick act with "incidents" that are so contrived that I feel embarrased for anyone involved.

As for the producer saying that young people will learn something about cars from this program - what exactly ?

[Johnny Cayman]

The response from Ch 5 is totally missing the point. Sure it's a silly entertainment programme, any fule know dat! But as soon as they include bogus financial information it takes on a different connotation altogether, and becomes a deception.

[radlet6]

mph said:

As I've mentioned previously I've watched probably dozens of U.S. "entertainment" car shows.

Several follow a similar format of restoring/customising a car in a very tight time frame. Some of the shows carry out the work without the knowledge of the owner - in a similar way to some of the house renovation programs.

The cars are restored or customised by professionals (sometimes the very best in the business) and the end result is a good product. They still find ways to inject humour and pace into the show.

I am absolutely baffled what anyone finds humorous about these two clowns carrying on like some second-rate slapstick act with "incidents" that are so contrived that I feel embarrased for anyone involved.

As for the producer saying that young people will learn something about cars from this program - what exactly ?

The end result is better than good. I'm thinking of those produced by Chip Foose on Overhaulin'; all completed in less than a week albeit with a mega
bucks budget.

I often found the wind up a little annoying but at least you got a good insight as to the restoration and modification of the car.

[nicanary]

That series producer is living in cloud-cuckoo land. You can pretty safely say that about 80% of the 1.1 mill viewers were car nuts like us. Even if people don't have Sky, a hell of a lot have access to Freeview or similar, and therefore have a largish choice of channels. Young kids aren't going to tune in to a classic car restoration show, however much comedy value there may be.There's simply too much on which will be of interest to them - the casual viewer for this particular programme doesn't really exist IMO.

So, exactly for whom is this entertainment, Mr Producer? Classic car fans are disgusted, casual viewers are few. Don't get too smug yet.