Classics dwarfed by moderns

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RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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Ah right, yes. I thought that was something Japanese. hehe

Itsallicanafford

2,770 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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So,here we have a 1979 635csi and a 2019 Lexus ES.

Ignore the 1st photo, the Lexus is actually longer.

It’s more the width...both were parked the same distance from the curb











Isimmo

1,228 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Itsallicanafford said:
So,here we have a 1979 635csi and a 2019 Lexus ES.

Ignore the 1st photo, the Lexus is actually longer.

It’s more the width...both were parked the same distance from the curb










Oh gawd, is that CSI lovely. I’m firmly in the Audi camp for that era, but that is just lovely, lovely, lovely....

I’m editing this to also say...

Gorgeous shut lines bearing in mind this was pre occupational health drug screening...

Edited by Isimmo on Thursday 27th June 21:14

StescoG66

2,118 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Itsallicanafford said:
So,here we have a 1979 635csi and a 2019 Lexus ES.

Ignore the 1st photo, the Lexus is actually longer.

It’s more the width...both were parked the same distance from the curb










When did kerb become curb in English? Time to curb this Americanisation nonsense

Itsallicanafford

2,770 posts

159 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Isimmo said:
Oh gawd, is that CSI lovely. I’m firmly in the Audi camp for that era, but that is just lovely, lovely, lovely....

I’m editing this to also say...

Gorgeous shut lines bearing in mind this was pre occupational health drug screening...

Edited by Isimmo on Thursday 27th June 21:14
Thanks Chap, the 6 is certainly an eyeful...

Funny to think that our one is now 40 years old...

stevew277

6 posts

77 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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OK the E-Type is not exactly dwarfed in this pic but it still seems small next to a 'compact' hatch!

robemcdonald

8,787 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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But it’s also much bigger than the transit van behind it.

a8hex

5,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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stevew277 said:
OK the E-Type is not exactly dwarfed in this pic but it still seems small next to a 'compact' hatch!
The car parking space shows off nicely how narrow the E is compared with modern cars. I was reminded of this the other day when I saw one approaching me, head on they look tiny these days, from that angle you can't see the bonnet is as long as some modern hatches.

PomBstard

6,775 posts

242 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Classic parked amongst modern family cars...



You can just make out the roofline of the 928 is level with the window line of the surrounding cars.

Blib

44,077 posts

197 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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"Perspective" this one away.

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WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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b2hbm said:
or how much the MX5 has grown compared to the Elan ?


I felt vulnerable in my MX-5 & felt more secure in the Honda S2000 & Audi cabriolet etc that followed.
Elan is pretty thing but a death trap insofar as it's invisibility & nil crash protection. You couldn't pay me to drive or be driven in one.

RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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WJNB said:
b2hbm said:
or how much the MX5 has grown compared to the Elan ?


I felt vulnerable in my MX-5 & felt more secure in the Honda S2000 & Audi cabriolet etc that followed.
Elan is pretty thing but a death trap insofar as it's invisibility & nil crash protection. You couldn't pay me to drive or be driven in one.
I'd love an Elan in my garage...

PomBstard

6,775 posts

242 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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RichB said:
WJNB said:
b2hbm said:
or how much the MX5 has grown compared to the Elan ?


I felt vulnerable in my MX-5 & felt more secure in the Honda S2000 & Audi cabriolet etc that followed.
Elan is pretty thing but a death trap insofar as it's invisibility & nil crash protection. You couldn't pay me to drive or be driven in one.
I'd love an Elan in my garage...
yes Sprint DHC in yellow over white thumbup

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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WJNB said:
I felt vulnerable in my MX-5 & felt more secure in the Honda S2000 & Audi cabriolet etc that followed.
Elan is pretty thing but a death trap insofar as it's invisibility & nil crash protection. You couldn't pay me to drive or be driven in one.
It's a mindset thing. In the cold light of day I don't think my TR is very safe either, but honestly I never think about that if the opportunity to drive it is there. Can't be any less safe than a bike.

To be fair, the TR is a fair bit beefier than the Elan.

RSTurboPaul

10,371 posts

258 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Yertis said:
WJNB said:
I felt vulnerable in my MX-5 & felt more secure in the Honda S2000 & Audi cabriolet etc that followed.
Elan is pretty thing but a death trap insofar as it's invisibility & nil crash protection. You couldn't pay me to drive or be driven in one.
It's a mindset thing. In the cold light of day I don't think my TR is very safe either, but honestly I never think about that if the opportunity to drive it is there. Can't be any less safe than a bike.

To be fair, the TR is a fair bit beefier than the Elan.
Anything small, low and convertible is basically a deathtrap waiting to happen unless it's got a full cage with side impact bars, FIA-spec bucket seats and harnesses fitted IMO - a driver's/passenger's head is level with the bumper line of any SUV thing, so any side impact protection fitted as standard (if any!) is basically useless because it's so far below where an impact would take place.

I imagine any SUV would simply ride up and over the small convertible thing, so you basically have no chance in a small car vs SUV collision nowadays.

Of course, the occupant(s) of the SUV would be just fine - I'm sure they give zero thought to the fact that their choice of 'lifestyle' vehicle basically condemns 'inferior' road users to death or very serious injury, just as long as little Jonny / little Isabella in the back seat is fine rolleyes


The only bonus is that being small and agile means being able to avoid incidents more easily and find small escape routes that other vehicles wouldn't fit into!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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RSTurboPaul said:
Anything small, low and convertible is basically a deathtrap waiting to happen unless it's got a full cage with side impact bars, FIA-spec bucket seats and harnesses fitted IMO - a driver's/passenger's head is level with the bumper line of any SUV thing, so any side impact protection fitted as standard (if any!) is basically useless because it's so far below where an impact would take place.

I imagine any SUV would simply ride up and over the small convertible thing, so you basically have no chance in a small car vs SUV collision nowadays.

Of course, the occupant(s) of the SUV would be just fine - I'm sure they give zero thought to the fact that their choice of 'lifestyle' vehicle basically condemns 'inferior' road users to death or very serious injury, just as long as little Jonny / little Isabella in the back seat is fine rolleyes


The only bonus is that being small and agile means being able to avoid incidents more easily and find small escape routes that other vehicles wouldn't fit into!
Oh god, not this old one again! You forgot the bit about PCP and renting.

RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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DoubleD said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Anything small, low and convertible is basically a deathtrap waiting to happen unless it's got a full cage with side impact bars, FIA-spec bucket seats and harnesses fitted IMO - a driver's/passenger's head is level with the bumper line of any SUV thing, so any side impact protection fitted as standard (if any!) is basically useless because it's so far below where an impact would take place.

I imagine any SUV would simply ride up and over the small convertible thing, so you basically have no chance in a small car vs SUV collision nowadays.

Of course, the occupant(s) of the SUV would be just fine - I'm sure they give zero thought to the fact that their choice of 'lifestyle' vehicle basically condemns 'inferior' road users to death or very serious injury, just as long as little Jonny / little Isabella in the back seat is fine rolleyes

The only bonus is that being small and agile means being able to avoid incidents more easily and find small escape routes that other vehicles wouldn't fit into!
Oh god, not this old one again! You forgot the bit about PCP and renting.
Got a gimormous 4x4 Soft Roader have you! biglaugh

RSTurboPaul

10,371 posts

258 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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DoubleD said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Anything small, low and convertible is basically a deathtrap waiting to happen unless it's got a full cage with side impact bars, FIA-spec bucket seats and harnesses fitted IMO - a driver's/passenger's head is level with the bumper line of any SUV thing, so any side impact protection fitted as standard (if any!) is basically useless because it's so far below where an impact would take place.

I imagine any SUV would simply ride up and over the small convertible thing, so you basically have no chance in a small car vs SUV collision nowadays.

Of course, the occupant(s) of the SUV would be just fine - I'm sure they give zero thought to the fact that their choice of 'lifestyle' vehicle basically condemns 'inferior' road users to death or very serious injury, just as long as little Jonny / little Isabella in the back seat is fine rolleyes


The only bonus is that being small and agile means being able to avoid incidents more easily and find small escape routes that other vehicles wouldn't fit into!
Oh god, not this old one again! You forgot the bit about PCP and renting.
I just find them all so unnecessary, and it creates some sort of 'arms race' to see who can get the biggest/tallest car 'because safer'!

Similarly, LED headlights - the mirrors on my small, low convertible are basically cosmetic adornments on the motorway at night because to use them is to be totally blinded.


[/shaking fist at cloud]

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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RichB said:
DoubleD said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Anything small, low and convertible is basically a deathtrap waiting to happen unless it's got a full cage with side impact bars, FIA-spec bucket seats and harnesses fitted IMO - a driver's/passenger's head is level with the bumper line of any SUV thing, so any side impact protection fitted as standard (if any!) is basically useless because it's so far below where an impact would take place.

I imagine any SUV would simply ride up and over the small convertible thing, so you basically have no chance in a small car vs SUV collision nowadays.

Of course, the occupant(s) of the SUV would be just fine - I'm sure they give zero thought to the fact that their choice of 'lifestyle' vehicle basically condemns 'inferior' road users to death or very serious injury, just as long as little Jonny / little Isabella in the back seat is fine rolleyes

The only bonus is that being small and agile means being able to avoid incidents more easily and find small escape routes that other vehicles wouldn't fit into!
Oh god, not this old one again! You forgot the bit about PCP and renting.
Got a gimormous 4x4 Soft Roader have you! biglaugh
Nope, never owned one and probably never will.

Its just a daily thing on here for folk to moan about a style of car that someone owns. Its all rather boring now.

ajprice

27,479 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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E30 M3 and an M6 GT3