Classics dwarfed by moderns
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RichB said:
Julian Thompson said:
Does anyone else find this thread depressing? I am absolutely certain that if the regulations were set properly the manufacturers could make small, lightweight, safe motor cars. As it is we have let ourselves get into this ridiculous situation.
I agree, it's ridiculous that when we are all meant to be being ecologically aware motor car manufacturers all seem to be churning out 2 ton goliaths, and people seem to be swallowing them up! Crazy... 
dontlookdown said:
RichB said:
Julian Thompson said:
Does anyone else find this thread depressing? I am absolutely certain that if the regulations were set properly the manufacturers could make small, lightweight, safe motor cars. As it is we have let ourselves get into this ridiculous situation.
I agree, it's ridiculous that when we are all meant to be being ecologically aware motor car manufacturers all seem to be churning out 2 ton goliaths, and people seem to be swallowing them up! Crazy... Still it means we are still allowed to enjoy our toys.
Julian Thompson said:
Does anyone else find this thread depressing?
I am absolutely certain that if the regulations were set properly the manufacturers could make small, lightweight, safe motor cars.
As it is we have let ourselves get into this ridiculous situation.
I don’t find it depressing that people like big, solidly built cars.I am absolutely certain that if the regulations were set properly the manufacturers could make small, lightweight, safe motor cars.
As it is we have let ourselves get into this ridiculous situation.
Not depressing just a bit sad and disappointing given the empty pledges countries have given regarding climate change.
My daily, (only 3-4k miles a year) is a 21 year old 4.6 Range Rover. My theory is that it’s manufacturing carbon footprint is well in the past………….
Back on subject, even my Range Rover, a Titan in its day is only a good medium sized car now.
My daily, (only 3-4k miles a year) is a 21 year old 4.6 Range Rover. My theory is that it’s manufacturing carbon footprint is well in the past………….
Back on subject, even my Range Rover, a Titan in its day is only a good medium sized car now.
I agree.
The most excited I have got about a 'new' car in years is the VW XL1 concept/limited run car.
Bucks the trend nicely, and I could really see myself using one.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vw+xl1&rlz=1C1...
Daniel
The most excited I have got about a 'new' car in years is the VW XL1 concept/limited run car.
Bucks the trend nicely, and I could really see myself using one.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vw+xl1&rlz=1C1...
Daniel
dhutch said:
I agree. The most excited I have got about a 'new' car in years is the VW XL1 concept/limited run car. Bucks the trend nicely, and I could really see myself using one. https://www.google.com/search?q=vw+xl1&rlz=1C1...
Indeed, it seems manufacturers all want to design massive cars on top of a 1 ton battery platform in the style of a 4x4. Just because EVs accelerate quickly some people are impressed but really they are one trick ponies. I even read someone on one forum saying their Tesla 3 was a 'Sports car' 
That's just shows how much people have been sucked in by the marketing (that they are fast in a straight line). 
mko9 said:
Not a pickup truck expert, but pretty sure that is a Chevy Silverado or a GMC. Not a Ford F150, not a Dodge Ram, definitely not a Toyota Tundra.
Regardless, modern pickup trucks are huge. Even a basic F150 is bigger than my Discovery 4, let alone an F250 or an F350.
And they can tow trailers which are massive. Maybe twice the length of the truck. And kids can drive them. Not sure if you need a different license to tow such things but I doubt it.Regardless, modern pickup trucks are huge. Even a basic F150 is bigger than my Discovery 4, let alone an F250 or an F350.
ATM said:
mko9 said:
Not a pickup truck expert, but pretty sure that is a Chevy Silverado or a GMC. Not a Ford F150, not a Dodge Ram, definitely not a Toyota Tundra.
Regardless, modern pickup trucks are huge. Even a basic F150 is bigger than my Discovery 4, let alone an F250 or an F350.
And they can tow trailers which are massive. Maybe twice the length of the truck. And kids can drive them. Not sure if you need a different license to tow such things but I doubt it.Regardless, modern pickup trucks are huge. Even a basic F150 is bigger than my Discovery 4, let alone an F250 or an F350.
In 15 out of 50 states, you can get a full driver's permit at 16 or 16.5 years old, and in 15 states you need to be 18. The other 20 are 17 years old, the same as us.
A friend of mine in Surrey bought an F150 several years ago. Biggest mistake he had ever made. Although the carrying and towing capacity was great, it was so huge as to be close to unusable on our roads and the narrow lanes which he frequented that he sold it for a great loss after about six months. Replaced it with an imported Pajaro which he loved!
phazed said:
A friend of mine in Surrey bought an F150 several years ago. Biggest mistake he had ever made. Although the carrying and towing capacity was great, it was so huge as to be close to unusable on our roads and the narrow lanes which he frequented that he sold it for a great loss after about six months. Replaced it with an imported Pajaro which he loved!
The F150 is their small but most popular selling. They do a 250, 350, 450 and I think even more. I think the bigger the number is generally for carrying or towing weight. The higher numbers look more like an actual truck with flat back for towing. You know the American versions with the traditional front engine and bonnet of a car rather than a UK lorry. The big trailers in the USA use a goose neck configuration rather than a tow bar. This gives you an idea. Imagine letting 16 year old loose in something like this.
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