Classics dwarfed by moderns
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phazed said:
BMW are truly leaders in the field of hideous fronts!
yet they made such lovely vehicles in the past, like say this BMW 507
they even did small 'cute' cars.
like say a BMW Isetta
I hope they soon will bring out another classic look small car again, say max 4100mm long, low and sporty and low weight.
ATM said:
RichB said:
BMW started making coupe versions of their SUV's about 10 years ago. They started with the X6. They now also do an X4 which is smaller. I believe they plan to do a version of the 8 series which will be called an X8. The one pictured above must be an X6 I'd guess.
Is it some sort of jacked-up SUV type thing? 
a8hex said:
If the angles were such that the older Golf were further away you would be able to see the back of it.
Also if you compare the B pillars of the two Golfs you've got a pretty similar angle.
That picture seems to be pretty bang on square on the gap between them.
Of course it is possible that the original Golf is further away because the far side is aligned and the new things is so much wider than the original.
It just doesn’t look quite right. The only way to know would be to measure the alloy wheel and compare. The old one looks like it is on aftermarket wheels. But I’d guess probably 16’s as the tyre isn’t wafer thin. No idea what the new one runs. Would be surprised if bigger than 19”. Also if you compare the B pillars of the two Golfs you've got a pretty similar angle.
That picture seems to be pretty bang on square on the gap between them.
Of course it is possible that the original Golf is further away because the far side is aligned and the new things is so much wider than the original.
300bhp/ton said:
a8hex said:
If the angles were such that the older Golf were further away you would be able to see the back of it.
Also if you compare the B pillars of the two Golfs you've got a pretty similar angle.
That picture seems to be pretty bang on square on the gap between them.
Of course it is possible that the original Golf is further away because the far side is aligned and the new things is so much wider than the original.
It just doesn’t look quite right. The only way to know would be to measure the alloy wheel and compare. The old one looks like it is on aftermarket wheels. But I’d guess probably 16’s as the tyre isn’t wafer thin. No idea what the new one runs. Would be surprised if bigger than 19”. Also if you compare the B pillars of the two Golfs you've got a pretty similar angle.
That picture seems to be pretty bang on square on the gap between them.
Of course it is possible that the original Golf is further away because the far side is aligned and the new things is so much wider than the original.
| Mk | Length | Width | Height |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 3,705 | 1,610 | 1,395 |
| 8 | 4,284 | 1,789 | 1,456 |
| diff | 579 | 179 | 61 |
The Mk8 is best part of 2' longer than the original which looks about right if you compare the lengths of the two in the photo.
No idea what wheels the Mk1 is on here but weren't they originally on 13" and that Mk8 has 19" ones as you say.
I only commented because I thought that the person who took the photos of the BMWs and VWs had taken reasonable care to take fair comparison photos whereas the photos of the Audis are taken from outside the line of the better looking one.
a8hex said:
The really dull way is to check the dimensions on wiki,
The Mk8 is best part of 2' longer than the original which looks about right if you compare the lengths of the two in the photo.
No idea what wheels the Mk1 is on here but weren't they originally on 13" and that Mk8 has 19" ones as you say.
I only commented because I thought that the person who took the photos of the BMWs and VWs had taken reasonable care to take fair comparison photos whereas the photos of the Audis are taken from outside the line of the better looking one.
I doubt we will ever know for sure. But it wouldn't be the 1st photo that was setup to make things appear differently. Maybe it is legit, but something about the photo just looks a little off and I can't quite place my finger on what it is.| Mk | Length | Width | Height |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 3,705 | 1,610 | 1,395 |
| 8 | 4,284 | 1,789 | 1,456 |
| diff | 579 | 179 | 61 |
The Mk8 is best part of 2' longer than the original which looks about right if you compare the lengths of the two in the photo.
No idea what wheels the Mk1 is on here but weren't they originally on 13" and that Mk8 has 19" ones as you say.
I only commented because I thought that the person who took the photos of the BMWs and VWs had taken reasonable care to take fair comparison photos whereas the photos of the Audis are taken from outside the line of the better looking one.
That said, looking at the image again, the old car really doesn't look any smaller. Certainly nothing is being remotely "dwarfed". Which when you consider a Golf isn't really a Golf today, the Polo is the Golf (the Golf has been moved up a segment and just retained the name for marketing purposes).
On a silhouette basis, they are very similar sizes. The only real difference is the actual styling being more dainty on the older car and far more chunky on the newer.
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300bhp/ton said:
The bigger 4 door family car is certainly larger than the 2 door coupe.... who'd have thought? 
The four door family car is a supermini (Yaris), I think the Yaris with a modern 2 door coupe, say a Cayman, the Cayman would look bigger than the Yaris (I've not looked at any sizes, that's just a guess)carlove said:
The four door family car is a supermini (Yaris), I think the Yaris with a modern 2 door coupe, say a Cayman, the Cayman would look bigger than the Yaris (I've not looked at any sizes, that's just a guess)
The Yaris is a family car these days... The Aygo would have been the supermini, but is also now small family car sized. Don't let the car makers fool you just because they keep the model the name the same. It doesn't mean the vehicle stays in the same class.According to the Toyota website, the Yaris starts from £22k!!!!! So, not even close to supermini pricing either!!
Doofus said:
The Alfa Romeo was considered small, though, even in its day.
In that case then, the Alfa (being several feet further away from the camera than the Yaris (note the yellow line)) looks to dwarf the modern family car in length. Only in height is is lauded over by the 4 family door car.Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff