Classics dwarfed by moderns

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GiveItSomeWellie

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197 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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That Rolls Royce picture is unbelievable

GTRene

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225 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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GiveItSomeWellie said:
That Rolls Royce picture is unbelievable
lovely isn't it :-) its small and lightweight, here some specs


dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Paceman? confused

Pacman would be more appropriate. bigmouth


Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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couple of small 6-cylinder sports cars

Cotty

39,617 posts

285 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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GiveItSomeWellie said:
That Rolls Royce picture is unbelievable
Yep and a three series BMW was a family car

Whitean3

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199 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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a8hex said:
I'm looking to get my youngest a VW Up! as a first car and one of my nephews sent me a link to a PH review of the up coming Up! GTI where they compare it to the original Golf GTI, we tend to view the Up! as being tiny these days, well it's wider, taller, has a longer wheel base and heavier than a Mk1 Golf. These days a Golf is several cars up VW's range from the entry level model. No wonder we were pleasantly surprised at how spacious it was in the back
How's this for a fact then (something I learnt on PH last week): The Ferrari Daytona has a shorter wheelbase than the VW Up!
2420 mm (Up! vs 2400 (Daytona). Quite incredible

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Whitean3 said:
a8hex said:
I'm looking to get my youngest a VW Up! as a first car and one of my nephews sent me a link to a PH review of the up coming Up! GTI where they compare it to the original Golf GTI, we tend to view the Up! as being tiny these days, well it's wider, taller, has a longer wheel base and heavier than a Mk1 Golf. These days a Golf is several cars up VW's range from the entry level model. No wonder we were pleasantly surprised at how spacious it was in the back
How's this for a fact then (something I learnt on PH last week): The Ferrari Daytona has a shorter wheelbase than the VW Up!
2420 mm (Up! vs 2400 (Daytona). Quite incredible
Wow!
The Up! is a lot shorter overall, 3540 against 4425, so shorter by a yard and so I guess it has lower polar moments of inertia. I'm pleasantly surprised at how much fun it is to pootle around in locally. The word nimble seems to spring to mind.

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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Even very big cars have got bigger.


AstonZagato

12,721 posts

211 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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They certainly have

RichB

51,655 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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It must be an age thing but his demonstrates why I have such little interest in modern cars...

williamp

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274 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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That P38 looks great paperbag

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Rolls Royce pic is hilarious.....biglaugh

sim16v

2,177 posts

202 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Posted this in the Classic spotters thread, but thought it would be appropriate here for the tiny 911


AstonZagato

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211 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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RichB said:
It must be an age thing but his demonstrates why I have such little interest in modern cars...
I have had both (the L405 is mine) in my time. The P38 I owned was titanically awful. My wife almost divorced me for buying it (it was her car).

robemcdonald

8,827 posts

197 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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AstonZagato said:
They certainly have
They haven’t got that much bigger really, have they?

The older car is 300mm shorter, 100mm narrower and about 25mm lower. To be fair the old car is smaller, but hardly dwarfed.

Maybe the thread title should be changed to;
“Cars in the background of pictures look smaller to those in the foreground. This is mainly due to perspective, but also linked to the small but noticeable increase in overall vehicle dimensions over a couple of decades”
Admittedly it’s not as catchy though.

AstonZagato

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211 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Yes, there is an element of Father Ted but I was genuinely quite struck by how small the P38 looked in real life compared to the L405. When I owned a P38, I thought it was huge.

At this end of the market, I guess there is less pressure to increase in size - small hatchbacks need to pass crash regs etc which add bulk. I suppose the pressure is upward - Evoque is the bottom end of the possibility for the Velar size, Velar size dictates the Range Rover Sport Size, RRS puts upward pressure on the full fat Range Rover.


irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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sim16v said:
Posted this in the Classic spotters thread, but thought it would be appropriate here for the tiny 911

TBH I was surprised by how large the Merc is

sim16v

2,177 posts

202 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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robemcdonald said:
They haven’t got that much bigger really, have they?

The older car is 300mm shorter, 100mm narrower and about 25mm lower. To be fair the old car is smaller, but hardly dwarfed.

Maybe the thread title should be changed to;
“Cars in the background of pictures look smaller to those in the foreground. This is mainly due to perspective, but also linked to the small but noticeable increase in overall vehicle dimensions over a couple of decades”
Admittedly it’s not as catchy though.
There's no fun in that though, is there?


Here's another one for perspective.

Same car, one with lowered suspension. nuts


robemcdonald

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197 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Hugo a Gogo

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234 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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robemcdonald said:
AstonZagato said:
They certainly have
They haven’t got that much bigger really, have they?

The older car is 300mm shorter, 100mm narrower and about 25mm lower. To be fair the old car is smaller, but hardly dwarfed.

Maybe the thread title should be changed to;
“Cars in the background of pictures look smaller to those in the foreground. This is mainly due to perspective, but also linked to the small but noticeable increase in overall vehicle dimensions over a couple of decades”
Admittedly it’s not as catchy though.
saying it in millimetres sounds better than saying the new one is a foot longer