COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2
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My understanding is that scrappage is not compulsory over there, but that the 'MOT' gets tougher and tougher and taxes higher and higher so that an older car becomes uneconomical to operate. Coupled with the fact that after year 10 the cars could be registered here without an SVA all accounts for that sudden big influx of imports, especially the 4X4s. I bought a couple of them myself and they were excellent value for money.
Interested to hear Voxy's perspective though. There are still some aspects of the import game that don't add up.
Interested to hear Voxy's perspective though. There are still some aspects of the import game that don't add up.
I spotted what appeared to be a rally-prepped Triumph TR6 in Farnborough the other evening. Race number roundels, spare wheel on the bootlid, etc. No idea if it's a genuine historic rally car or an homage to one, but it looked lovely.
Also a red Sunbeam Alpine in the consultants' car park at the local hospital. I suspect I know who it belongs to, and if so he works with my wife. She has been instructed to ask if is, indeed, his car. I've primed her to make the "nice Bond car" remark too.
Also a red Sunbeam Alpine in the consultants' car park at the local hospital. I suspect I know who it belongs to, and if so he works with my wife. She has been instructed to ask if is, indeed, his car. I've primed her to make the "nice Bond car" remark too.
S47 said:
Voxy
Great photo's from Tokyo, keep up the good work
I'm confused though, I thought cars older than 10 years in Japan had to be scrapped?
Plenty of old Japanese registered cars come to the UK, for example Diesel Toyota SUrf 4x4s, and Mitsubishi Pajero's, So how come all these old classics that you photgraph avoided the Japanese system scrappage scheme? Whats the loophole? I'm sure we'd all like to know
No, no requirement to scrap cars more than 10 years old, but 52classic is on the right track...Great photo's from Tokyo, keep up the good work
I'm confused though, I thought cars older than 10 years in Japan had to be scrapped?
Plenty of old Japanese registered cars come to the UK, for example Diesel Toyota SUrf 4x4s, and Mitsubishi Pajero's, So how come all these old classics that you photgraph avoided the Japanese system scrappage scheme? Whats the loophole? I'm sure we'd all like to know
52classic said:
My understanding is that scrappage is not compulsory over there, but that the 'MOT' gets tougher and tougher and taxes higher and higher so that an older car becomes uneconomical to operate. Coupled with the fact that after year 10 the cars could be registered here without an SVA all accounts for that sudden big influx of imports, especially the 4X4s. I bought a couple of them myself and they were excellent value for money.
Interested to hear Voxy's perspective though. There are still some aspects of the import game that don't add up.
Taxes don't increase for older cars, but it becomes increasingly difficult and expensive to get them through the shaken (MOT equivalent). Interested to hear Voxy's perspective though. There are still some aspects of the import game that don't add up.
Domestically produced cars are comparatively inexpensive, and there is no shaken for the first 3 years, so it can be more cost effective to buy new after 7 or 8 years.
So there are no legal restrictions on owning classic cars, and no need to know people in the "right places", but it does help to have a friendly shaken tester, which I guess is the same the whole world over...
I believe Thailand is now one of he main export markets for older Japanese cars - exchange rates and import taxes make exporting to the U.K. less attractive at the moment.
Edited by Voxy on Friday 5th May 10:36
DickyC said:
There's an article or two there if PH are interested. I'm fairly certain he'd agree. Unless, of course, he and his cars are the subjects of numerous articles already.
among the illuminating things he talked about were decisions he made during the restorations. One of which was the front of the Ace which had been in the wars and was a patchwork of bits and pieces and pounds of filler. Should he utilise as much of the original bodywork as possible or should he have a new front made? He opted to replace with new, arguing, "It will all be part of the story of the car." How refreshing is that?
I've usually gone the other way and retained as much as possible, but I see now I was making myself subservient to the car.
Yes, S B-B is a lovely chap, as you say much has been written about his cars. It is a pity that there are not more like him around, the classic world would be a better place.among the illuminating things he talked about were decisions he made during the restorations. One of which was the front of the Ace which had been in the wars and was a patchwork of bits and pieces and pounds of filler. Should he utilise as much of the original bodywork as possible or should he have a new front made? He opted to replace with new, arguing, "It will all be part of the story of the car." How refreshing is that?
I've usually gone the other way and retained as much as possible, but I see now I was making myself subservient to the car.
That's interesting Voxy. As you say, the exchange rates affected things, as did the change in SVA rules over here. I am told that Africa and Russia also take a lot of these cars now and when I look at the auction/shipping sites these days it seems the FOB price is no less than our garage retail!
Still, my experience with my 2 Pajeros was entirely favorable and I admit a fascination with the cars having served such a different life previously. The MK1 came from Nagoya and the later one from Hiroshima.
Still, my experience with my 2 Pajeros was entirely favorable and I admit a fascination with the cars having served such a different life previously. The MK1 came from Nagoya and the later one from Hiroshima.
52classic said:
That's interesting Voxy. As you say, the exchange rates affected things, as did the change in SVA rules over here. I am told that Africa and Russia also take a lot of these cars now and when I look at the auction/shipping sites these days it seems the FOB price is no less than our garage retail!
Still, my experience with my 2 Pajeros was entirely favorable and I admit a fascination with the cars having served such a different life previously. The MK1 came from Nagoya and the later one from Hiroshima.
Well you could find one of them in the dark thenStill, my experience with my 2 Pajeros was entirely favorable and I admit a fascination with the cars having served such a different life previously. The MK1 came from Nagoya and the later one from Hiroshima.
lukeharding said:
Many nice cars out today, the only ones I got photos of however are these.
Nice bit of '80s. Whack a filter on that and it could go into the "period looking pictures" thread. Then someone would come along and tell us that type of bus stop wasn't introduced until 2007, or something, like the chap who was an expert in lamp-posts.
Yertis said:
Nice bit of '80s. Whack a filter on that and it could go into the "period looking pictures" thread.
Then someone would come along and tell us that type of bus stop wasn't introduced until 2007, or something, like the chap who was an expert in lamp-posts.
And the shops would of been open in the 80's Then someone would come along and tell us that type of bus stop wasn't introduced until 2007, or something, like the chap who was an expert in lamp-posts.
It's 1986 again in Horsforth, Leeds today.
And another 'C' plater which is driven to the supermarket weekly by the elderly lady that owns it in Otley. Great to see someone of that age still driving and in a clearly well looked after big barge!
And another big ford (V8 sounded good). Not totally sure of the model, is it a Taunus or is it an Aussie model?
And another 'C' plater which is driven to the supermarket weekly by the elderly lady that owns it in Otley. Great to see someone of that age still driving and in a clearly well looked after big barge!
And another big ford (V8 sounded good). Not totally sure of the model, is it a Taunus or is it an Aussie model?
I walked down to my local earlier this evening, The Wheatsheaf in Maidstone, and saw what I think was a 1956 Pontiac Catalina.
Then this beautiful Bentley which I'm yet to identify;
Closely followed by a Gallardo Spyder;
And on my walk home a very tidy looking grey MkIV Escort XR3i.
(Sorry, my phone is old and crap!).
Then this beautiful Bentley which I'm yet to identify;
Closely followed by a Gallardo Spyder;
And on my walk home a very tidy looking grey MkIV Escort XR3i.
(Sorry, my phone is old and crap!).
Three classic Jaaaaags northbound on the M3 early this morning. I was walking across (on a bridge,not the carriageway, obvs... ) when I clocked the first car, a lovely blue E-Type with white/cream race number roundels on the doors. It was closely followed by an XK120, and bringing up the rear of the small convoy was a pale blue saloon, which I'm ashamed to say I couldn't positively identify. MkII style, but not completely sure that's the right model, as I felt it might have been larger than a MkII.
yellowjack said:
Three classic Jaaaaags northbound on the M3 early this morning. I was walking across (on a bridge,not the carriageway, obvs... ) when I clocked the first car, a lovely blue E-Type with white/cream race number roundels on the doors. It was closely followed by an XK120, and bringing up the rear of the small convoy was a pale blue saloon, which I'm ashamed to say I couldn't positively identify. MkII style, but not completely sure that's the right model, as I felt it might have been larger than a MkII.
There was a big Jag gathering at the Royal Windsor Show today.Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff