COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2

COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2

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dbdb

4,327 posts

174 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Google [bot] said:
I see this R25 about a bit, lovely looking things.

They are cleanly styled cars. IIRC, they had the lowest coefficient of drag of any car when they were new - much smoother than the Audi 100 everyone remembers.

TCEvo

12,743 posts

203 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Came across this 1300 Capri parked in Arnage on Friday evening.

I'm not a particular Capri fan but thought this was quite special - basic spec but with what appeared to be original paint and a vinyl caramel interior.

Looked like the sort of thing that had been bought new and kept for special occasions ever since; toe hook & luggage rack suggested that it maybe used to pull a small trailer on the annual holiday to the South.




daveenty

2,358 posts

211 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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dbdb said:
They are cleanly styled cars. IIRC, they had the lowest coefficient of drag of any car when they were new - much smoother than the Audi 100 everyone remembers.
I had one back in the day and it's still one of the comfiest cars I've ever owned. Not much else good to say about it mind...

Back to the thread topic, and apologies for the lack of pictures as I was on my own, but I saw some amazing stuff on my way home up the A1 yesterday. A stunning 1966 E Type in a sort of off white colour which I thought would be the highlight after the various other more mundane classics, though up past Doncaster I ended up following a pre-war Bentley of some description which sounded incredible and was more than keeping up with modern traffic.

UV8081 I think was the reg. I've done a quick search but my Google skills have left me today, so that's about all I know.

Brexit Wounds

979 posts

83 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Saw a rather superb Oldsmobile Coupe earlier. Could be wrong but I believe it was one of these, from the early 30s. Bright red.




ETA being driven by a rather old couple on the M20 today along with a glorious V8 burble Looked very well used.

Edited by Brexit Wounds on Monday 19th June 22:03

Hugh Jarse

3,530 posts

206 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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dbdb said:
They are cleanly styled cars. IIRC, they had the lowest coefficient of drag of any car when they were new - much smoother than the Audi 100 everyone remembers.
Lovely - quite aspirational in my youth, with ruffled "monaco" edition leather. Love the everyman classics equally as much as the fancy ones.
Good spot.

droopsnoot

11,975 posts

243 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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dbdb said:
IIRC, they had the lowest coefficient of drag of any car when they were new - much smoother than the Audi 100 everyone remembers.
Wiki page suggests 0.31 for the 1984 Renault 25, vs. 0.30 for the Audi 100. I guess people remember the Audi number because it was highlighted as part of the advertising campaign, possibly the first a lot of people knew about drag coefficients. I'm surprised - I'd think the Audi "looked" more aerodynamic, but I guess some things make less difference than I thought.

lukeharding

2,948 posts

90 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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finlo said:
Renault Caravelle I think.
or a Floride. They're pretty much the same thing I believe. I had a Caravelle, a lovely little car and definitely not something you see every day.

52classic

2,540 posts

211 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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'Floride' reminds me of the Corgi model of that car. Never seen a 'Floride' in the flesh though - They always seem to have a 'Caravelle' wing script on them. Can Renaultphiles explain the difference for us please?

RATATTAK

11,134 posts

190 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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52classic said:
'Floride' reminds me of the Corgi model of that car. Never seen a 'Floride' in the flesh though - They always seem to have a 'Caravelle' wing script on them. Can Renaultphiles explain the difference for us please?
The Renault Caravelle is a sports car which was produced by the French manufacturer Renault between 1958 and 1968. Outside of North America and Britain it was, until 1962,[2] marketed under the nameplate Renault Floride.

RATATTAK

11,134 posts

190 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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RATATTAK said:
52classic said:
'Floride' reminds me of the Corgi model of that car. Never seen a 'Floride' in the flesh though - They always seem to have a 'Caravelle' wing script on them. Can Renaultphiles explain the difference for us please?
The Renault Caravelle is a sports car which was produced by the French manufacturer Renault between 1958 and 1968. Outside of North America and Britain it was, until 1962,[2] marketed under the nameplate Renault Floride.
Renault was envious of the growing success in North America of the Volkswagen Bug/Beetle and were looking for ways they might match the Volkswagen's success with their own Renault Dauphine. At a convention of North American distributors that took place in Florida, Renault's US dealers called for the creation of a Dauphine coupé/cabriolet which would improve Renault's image in the critical US market. Renault's chairman, Pierre Dreyfus, agreed, and since the concept had been born at a convention in Florida the car instantly became known within the company as the "Renault Floride".[3] The "Floride" name was considered unsuitable for 49 of the 50 states of the USA, however, since it could have implied disrespect to states other than Florida. For this reason an alternative name, "Caravelle", was from the start used for North America and for other major markets (including the UK) where the principal language was a form of English.

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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2 sensible little town runabouts languishing in the leafy streets of Highgate, North London.

You may think this should have gone in the "left to die" thread but they are both definitely runners. They move from time to time as livid residents must be complaining that these 2 behemoths take up about half a dozen prime spaces!



lucido grigio

44,044 posts

164 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I saw a VW Porsche 914 the other day,with the rather good reg......914 VWP on it.
I was on foot and as it came from behind me I heard the distinctive sound of a 911 engine,so I'm assuming a 911 engine might be an obvious upgrade for a 914.....?

Martin350

3,775 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Porsche did make the 914/6 with a 2.0 flat six.

As it happens I saw a late 1960s 911 in red on the back of a flat bed an hour or so ago.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

164 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Martin350 said:
Porsche did make the 914/6 with a 2.0 flat six.
Of course they did,what was I thinking ?

I had an "all 914s are 4 cylinder" fixation.......confusedbiggrin

dbdb

4,327 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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droopsnoot said:
dbdb said:
IIRC, they had the lowest coefficient of drag of any car when they were new - much smoother than the Audi 100 everyone remembers.
Wiki page suggests 0.31 for the 1984 Renault 25, vs. 0.30 for the Audi 100. I guess people remember the Audi number because it was highlighted as part of the advertising campaign, possibly the first a lot of people knew about drag coefficients. I'm surprised - I'd think the Audi "looked" more aerodynamic, but I guess some things make less difference than I thought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient

Wikipedia reckons the 25TS had a drag coefficient of 0.28 - lower than the 100CC which achieved the 100 range's headline figure of 0.30. More upmarket 25s with bigger tyres/ radiators/engines etc. will presumably have been 0.31, but only the cheapest Audi 100 managed anywhere near 0.30 - the CS and CD were quite a bit more.

It is strange to view the fascination the market had with drag numbers back in the 1980s, especially as it is only one aspect of the actual aerodynamics of the car. The power of marketing!

S47

1,325 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Spotted this earlier today at Elan valley visitor centre, Nice to see it being used as intended, definitely had that unmistakable well used patinathumbup
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BlueHave

4,651 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Dapster said:
2 sensible little town runabouts languishing in the leafy streets of Highgate, North London.

You may think this should have gone in the "left to die" thread but they are both definitely runners. They move from time to time as livid residents must be complaining that these 2 behemoths take up about half a dozen prime spaces!

Looks a lot like the Trump Cadillac limo someone was trying to sell recently

TR4man

5,230 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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S47 said:
Spotted this earlier today at Elan valley visitor centre, Nice to see it being used as intended, definitely had that unmistakable well used patinathumbup
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Looks like the local Lotus club were visiting judging by those cars in the background.

How appropriate that they should have visited the Elan Valley

droopsnoot

11,975 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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dbdb said:
Wikipedia reckons the 25TS had a drag coefficient of 0.28 - lower than the 100CC which achieved the 100 range's headline figure of 0.30. More upmarket 25s with bigger tyres/ radiators/engines etc. will presumably have been 0.31, but only the cheapest Audi 100 managed anywhere near 0.30 - the CS and CD were quite a bit more.
Indeed it does - I stopped reading when I found the first entry.

dbdb said:
The power of marketing!
Yes, very much so.

I guess that's why I was surprised that the 25 was anywhere close to the 100, though I'm not sure why I should be. After all, there were some wind tunnel tests on the Vauxhall Firenza with surprisingly few modifications that gave it a very low figure back in the mid-70s, sufficiently low that the tests were repeated several times as no-one could quite believe the figures. And I recall the "Car" article on the Nordstadt VW Golf (a Mk1 Golf, widened to accept 928 running gear) mentioning that the modified VW had a lower drag figure than the much more curvy 928.

LotusOmega375D

7,643 posts

154 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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The Renault GTA Turbo had a Cd of 0.30 whereas the atmo version was advertised at a class-leading world record of 0.28. In non-UK markets the atmo car had different wheels and hubcaps as standard, which were presumably more slippery (and maybe narrower?), so this must have been the difference, since both cars were otherwise outwardly identical.
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