Help identifying a strange little car

[Orangecurry]

blueg33 said:

This thread is fascinating, I have followed it from the start plus I know Hotel du France well.

The one thing this thread has demonstrated is how crap people must be at spot the difference puzzles!

Totally - I love a good mystery.

Even though the answer was given in 2014 as probably a small French Coachbuilder, I'm still (occasionally) trying to come up with a definitive answer

[FourWheelDrift]

Orangecurry said:

Even though the answer was given in 2014 as probably a small French Coachbuilder, I'm still (occasionally) trying to come up with a definitive answer

It's a 1953 Artois Baguette fastback special. Body by Monsieur Alfonse of Nouvion, "Swiftly and with style".

[eldar]

saaby93 said:

Mgtf01 said:

I think it's an Maximum Mini Ogle's Super SX1000

from the right angle the rear would look right too as well as the front.

Anyone else seeing Allegro?

Absolutely.

[JuniorD]

Orangecurry said:

If you look at both photographs, you will see the tree monster in your photo (1964) has grown across the wall/face of the hotel, to the edge of that window.

We could assume therefore that the mystery photo is somewhat older than yours, depending on how fast ivy grows in mid-France.

Of course the ivy may have been cleared away at some point, and your photograph is the older one - but that's doubtful.

ETA the 1964 photo also has a number of skylights in the RHS roof in the Square, so that is clearly later.

Edited by Orangecurry on Monday 28th December 14:09

The number 1 on the door is a clear give away that it’s a a race car, supported by the dings at the front and rear. There must be race records for the possible years in question.

[saaby93]

JuniorD said:

The number 1 on the door is a clear give away that it’s a a race car, supported by the dings at the front and rear. There must be race records for the possible years in question.

How did the '1' get on the door?

[FourWheelDrift]

saaby93 said:

JuniorD said:

The number 1 on the door is a clear give away that it’s a a race car, supported by the dings at the front and rear. There must be race records for the possible years in question.

How did the '1' get on the door?

It's the parc ferme area for the 1964 Le Mans race, with numbers given to the competing cars based on their qualifying times. Seeing who was on pole that year will give us the car, yes...that's it, it's the Scarfiotti driven Ferrari 275 P.

[Orangecurry]

I'm not sure that everyone here is taking this seriously......

[deeen]

Orangecurry said:

I'm not sure that everyone here is taking this seriously......

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that it's not an Allegro, the steering wheel is the wrong shape.

[Lily the Pink]

deeen said:

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that it's not an Allegro, the steering wheel is the wrong shape.

But to be absolutely sure you need to jack it up and see if the windscreen pops out.

[JuniorD]

FourWheelDrift said:

saaby93 said:

JuniorD said:

The number 1 on the door is a clear give away that it’s a a race car, supported by the dings at the front and rear. There must be race records for the possible years in question.

How did the '1' get on the door?

It's the parc ferme area for the 1964 Le Mans race, with numbers given to the competing cars based on their qualifying times. Seeing who was on pole that year will give us the car, yes...that's it, it's the Scarfiotti driven Ferrari 275 P.

That’s some nice dic work

[Mgtf01]

The man's jacket slieve makes the rear arch look more square than it may be, I've looked at the rear arch of an early 356 Porsche and at the right angle it does make the rear arch look square.

[Mgtf01]

Cover the first part of the arch with your thumb.

[BrabusMog]

vixen1700 said:

blueg33 said:

This thread is fascinating, I have followed it from the start..

Me too.

Six and a half years and I still get hope when I see a new post on it.

One day we will get there, hopefully

[Mgtf01]

Right window configuration for mistry car ( this pic is a split screen car ) wonder if said mistery car is a split screen ..

[Mgtf01]

Side front quarter window curves in to the windscreen so you get slightly more reflection off it at the right angle.

[ReverendCounter]

Just a quick reminder by way of a very rough and ready 'shop edit

Au Revoir Monsieur:

[BrabusMog]

Does look like a split window, but doesn’t look like the Porsche to me..

[ReverendCounter]

Incidentally, is this really about solving a 60 year old crime? Because there's a face peering through the glass on the other side of the car in question, as if they don't want to be seen!



(pareidolia no doubt!)

[Gary C]

ReverendCounter said:

Incidentally, is this really about solving a 60 year old crime? Because there's a face peering through the glass on the other side of the car in question, as if they don't want to be seen!



(pareidolia no doubt!)

Nah, no one there

You can see the other sides C pillar.

[TarquinMX5]

It's not a 356.

Why don't we agree that it's probably a Panhard of some description and, as the PM would say when faced with a difficult question "Move on, it's time to move on" .