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Been working on all the minor bits and bobs on the F reg car over the last few weeks.
Replaced the plugs and leads and given it an oil change. Runs beautifully again.
Changed the fluid in the gearbox and transfer box and the silky gear change has returned. I'd forgotten how these ZF boxes like new atf.
Replaced the spindle rubbers on the front wipers and replaced the front auxiliary lamps which were cracked.
I even went so far as to give the paintwork a bit of a cut to lift off the last couple of years' grime. And topped up the aircon seeing as its that time of year again.
Have a slight exhaust blow at the join of the Y piece and the main pipe that requires involving the joint and just doing it back up with a bit of packing. They never quite fitted a replacement Y piece last year. And the driver's window needs a new mechanism after 25 years of 'winders daaaan' driving. Both of those should be done over the next week or so.
Underneath it's still utterly solid and the best unrestored Rangie I've seen in donkeys years. I reckon it'll be one of those cars I regret selling at the end of the year.
Replaced the plugs and leads and given it an oil change. Runs beautifully again.
Changed the fluid in the gearbox and transfer box and the silky gear change has returned. I'd forgotten how these ZF boxes like new atf.
Replaced the spindle rubbers on the front wipers and replaced the front auxiliary lamps which were cracked.
I even went so far as to give the paintwork a bit of a cut to lift off the last couple of years' grime. And topped up the aircon seeing as its that time of year again.
Have a slight exhaust blow at the join of the Y piece and the main pipe that requires involving the joint and just doing it back up with a bit of packing. They never quite fitted a replacement Y piece last year. And the driver's window needs a new mechanism after 25 years of 'winders daaaan' driving. Both of those should be done over the next week or so.
Underneath it's still utterly solid and the best unrestored Rangie I've seen in donkeys years. I reckon it'll be one of those cars I regret selling at the end of the year.
silverstone auctions this weekend - couple of range rovers for sale
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1972-range-rov...
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1983-range-rov...
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1972-range-rov...
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1983-range-rov...
squirdan said:
silverstone auctions this weekend - couple of range rovers for sale
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1983-range-rov...
You mean one of yours for sale. https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1983-range-rov...
suffix A failed to make reserve
In Vogue went for £15k plus 15% buyers premium
overall if I took this auction as a test of the classic car market I'd say it was deflating quite rapidly
eg. a very nice beautifully presented 911 S 2.2 LHD top bid £105k miles below estimate
a 430 Scuderia for only £105k ??
In Vogue went for £15k plus 15% buyers premium
overall if I took this auction as a test of the classic car market I'd say it was deflating quite rapidly
eg. a very nice beautifully presented 911 S 2.2 LHD top bid £105k miles below estimate
a 430 Scuderia for only £105k ??
The whole of last year I was of the view that we'd reached the point where a couple of failed auctions or more likely a few failed big ticket items would tip us into a bear market.
I feel we are still in this phase and what we are seeing is actual stock selection, the random speculative purchases of any old tat because you can borrow at under 5% on the deal and within a year you'll be flipping it out for geared return of hundreds of percent have been steadily disappearing. The funds set up to invest seem to have stopped buying and have moved to their final phase of just extracting remaining cash as salaries and fees. Knight Frank are still promoting used cars as an actual asset class but I very much suspect that that will only change long after any sell off and after Liam has used it to show that London resi property hasn't been the worst performing asset class
The froth is out of the market at the moment, meaning it is susceptible to a big sell off but I've no idea if we'll get a big sell off as that generally requires a random event to trigger it.
I take faith from the fact that an In Vogue is seen as a viable classic of limited numbers and of historical importance so is bought yet a 430 is priced for what it is, a mass produced, used sports car of no historical significance.
I feel we are still in this phase and what we are seeing is actual stock selection, the random speculative purchases of any old tat because you can borrow at under 5% on the deal and within a year you'll be flipping it out for geared return of hundreds of percent have been steadily disappearing. The funds set up to invest seem to have stopped buying and have moved to their final phase of just extracting remaining cash as salaries and fees. Knight Frank are still promoting used cars as an actual asset class but I very much suspect that that will only change long after any sell off and after Liam has used it to show that London resi property hasn't been the worst performing asset class
The froth is out of the market at the moment, meaning it is susceptible to a big sell off but I've no idea if we'll get a big sell off as that generally requires a random event to trigger it.
I take faith from the fact that an In Vogue is seen as a viable classic of limited numbers and of historical importance so is bought yet a 430 is priced for what it is, a mass produced, used sports car of no historical significance.
DonkeyApple said:
The whole of last year I was of the view that we'd reached the point where a couple of failed auctions or more likely a few failed big ticket items would tip us into a bear market.
I feel we are still in this phase and what we are seeing is actual stock selection, the random speculative purchases of any old tat because you can borrow at under 5% on the deal and within a year you'll be flipping it out for geared return of hundreds of percent have been steadily disappearing. The funds set up to invest seem to have stopped buying and have moved to their final phase of just extracting remaining cash as salaries and fees. Knight Frank are still promoting used cars as an actual asset class but I very much suspect that that will only change long after any sell off and after Liam has used it to show that London resi property hasn't been the worst performing asset class
The froth is out of the market at the moment, meaning it is susceptible to a big sell off but I've no idea if we'll get a big sell off as that generally requires a random event to trigger it.
I take faith from the fact that an In Vogue is seen as a viable classic of limited numbers and of historical importance so is bought yet a 430 is priced for what it is, a mass produced, used sports car of no historical significance.
I think that there is validity in this. No one is looking to get in but, equally, no one 'needs' to get outI feel we are still in this phase and what we are seeing is actual stock selection, the random speculative purchases of any old tat because you can borrow at under 5% on the deal and within a year you'll be flipping it out for geared return of hundreds of percent have been steadily disappearing. The funds set up to invest seem to have stopped buying and have moved to their final phase of just extracting remaining cash as salaries and fees. Knight Frank are still promoting used cars as an actual asset class but I very much suspect that that will only change long after any sell off and after Liam has used it to show that London resi property hasn't been the worst performing asset class
The froth is out of the market at the moment, meaning it is susceptible to a big sell off but I've no idea if we'll get a big sell off as that generally requires a random event to trigger it.
I take faith from the fact that an In Vogue is seen as a viable classic of limited numbers and of historical importance so is bought yet a 430 is priced for what it is, a mass produced, used sports car of no historical significance.
you'll like this one..talking of random...2 x BMW 3.0CSL's were at auction...one silver and one green. both looked great, both had lots of work done, albeit the silver one had a photo of its bare shell resto and the green one didnt. saying that, the green one to my eyes looked more correct. and is a funky 70s colour. Anyway...a £50k spread between the 2 resulted...c. £70k green and £120k silver. Hard to rationalise !
my other takeaway would be the big prices rel to estimate or relative to my own semi informed idea of value was all 80s and 90s stuff... capri, focus RS, etc
my other takeaway would be the big prices rel to estimate or relative to my own semi informed idea of value was all 80s and 90s stuff... capri, focus RS, etc
squirdan said:
suffix A failed to make reserve
In Vogue went for £15k plus 15% buyers premium
overall if I took this auction as a test of the classic car market I'd say it was deflating quite rapidly
eg. a very nice beautifully presented 911 S 2.2 LHD top bid £105k miles below estimate
a 430 Scuderia for only £105k ??
interesting I assume the scud was lhd or high miles?In Vogue went for £15k plus 15% buyers premium
overall if I took this auction as a test of the classic car market I'd say it was deflating quite rapidly
eg. a very nice beautifully presented 911 S 2.2 LHD top bid £105k miles below estimate
a 430 Scuderia for only £105k ??
Dr Interceptor said:
One buffed bonnet back to bare metal.... previously owned by someone on here ????
very shiny. Never occured to me to ask on here for one, mine rather lets the side down as the leading edge is quite rusty. Might be salvageable, I'll see what the body man says.If you suddenly decide you don't want it let me know!
Purso said:
interesting I assume the scud was lhd or high miles?
LHD Saudi car with 51k kms...125k with buyers premium...so hardly a bargain..
Also the green csi was not actually that great..i was steered away from bidding for it by those in the know...as a first point its not its original colour..
finally some proper work has begun on my Y reg early 4 door "restomod"
the gearbox is coming out to be replaced by a nice newly rebuilt R380 5 speed
once thats in, the new tunnel has to be grafted in, put the dash and all the trims back etc
meanwhile a full seat of slightly later type seats with headrests and armrests are at nationwide waiting to be retrimmed in tan leather
am still not sure what wheels to use - I have somee CSK / LSE type alloys and also some Rostyles that I am considering getting banded to make them wider and tubeless
LT 95 4 speed gearbox and transfer box in full working order available if useful for anyone...and a fairey overdrive
the gearbox is coming out to be replaced by a nice newly rebuilt R380 5 speed
once thats in, the new tunnel has to be grafted in, put the dash and all the trims back etc
meanwhile a full seat of slightly later type seats with headrests and armrests are at nationwide waiting to be retrimmed in tan leather
am still not sure what wheels to use - I have somee CSK / LSE type alloys and also some Rostyles that I am considering getting banded to make them wider and tubeless
LT 95 4 speed gearbox and transfer box in full working order available if useful for anyone...and a fairey overdrive
squirdan said:
nationwide
How are you finding them? I called to see if they did replacement leather covers for my Saddle seats - when I said they were the tan ones which had light stitching, whoever I spoke to told me that they didn't - I explained that I was sitting on them and looking at them whilst I was speaking with him. Asked me to send photos - which I did then and there - never heard anything since. Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff