The Range Rover Classic thread:
Discussion
CAPP0 said:
I think the fuel pump only primes once, for a few seconds max. Although you can smell petrol, maybe the rail is still under pressure so the pump isn't firing again.
You're better at this than me anyway! Trying to think of the obvious since I guess you drove it earlier today? MAF connector?
Probably a bit late, but if it's cold & damp then possibly HT tracking on the outside of the dizzy cap or down the nose of the coil? Clean & dry. (the latter caused me much head scratching many years ago on a friends non-starting car & it wasn't until it started to get dark that the arcing became noticeable. Quick clean & dry & it was cured.)You're better at this than me anyway! Trying to think of the obvious since I guess you drove it earlier today? MAF connector?
Be worth popping the dizzy cap & drying the inside as you can get condensation in there too.
Is the rotor arm a good one? Do not use those with a rivet holding the metal strip to the plastic. If you remove the rotor arm you MUST press down on the reluctor - the pointy star shaped thing under the rotor arm - as you pull or it is very likely you will disengage the auto advance mech in the bottom of the dizzy bowl & it may not run at all.
Thanks Paintman. It does seem to be something like that. I've brought a set of dry and clean plug leads with me this morning.
The saga is - RAC said it could be a two hour wait, which I accepted. They rang after two hours to say they couldn't get to me. In fairness, the weather and traffic were appalling. So I cadged a lift part of the way home, andwalked trudged the rest of the way. The RAC are coming back this morning. It still won't start so I'll wait for them as it's cold and wet.
The saga is - RAC said it could be a two hour wait, which I accepted. They rang after two hours to say they couldn't get to me. In fairness, the weather and traffic were appalling. So I cadged a lift part of the way home, and
P5BNij said:
needs a complete new interior but only 2 owners must be rare for such an old car
It's alive!
RAC man suspects the coil is past its best. Weak spark, combined with cold and damp meant it wouldn't start. My repeated attempts flooded it to the point where this morning the plugs were still damp and smelly. He took four plugs out, cleaned them and warmed them. It staggered into life and then quickly started running OK. I'll get a new coil ordered as they are not expensive and hope that's all it was.
RAC man suspects the coil is past its best. Weak spark, combined with cold and damp meant it wouldn't start. My repeated attempts flooded it to the point where this morning the plugs were still damp and smelly. He took four plugs out, cleaned them and warmed them. It staggered into life and then quickly started running OK. I'll get a new coil ordered as they are not expensive and hope that's all it was.
task said:
Purso said:
Just picked this old girl up;
Looks good, I know it's not most peoples opinion but I do prefer them with the brooklands kit! Enjoy it.
RicksAlfas said:
It's alive!
RAC man suspects the coil is past its best. Weak spark, combined with cold and damp meant it wouldn't start. My repeated attempts flooded it to the point where this morning the plugs were still damp and smelly. He took four plugs out, cleaned them and warmed them. It staggered into life and then quickly started running OK. I'll get a new coil ordered as they are not expensive and hope that's all it was.
Glad it's back to life - and hopefully an easy fix too!RAC man suspects the coil is past its best. Weak spark, combined with cold and damp meant it wouldn't start. My repeated attempts flooded it to the point where this morning the plugs were still damp and smelly. He took four plugs out, cleaned them and warmed them. It staggered into life and then quickly started running OK. I'll get a new coil ordered as they are not expensive and hope that's all it was.
RicksAlfas said:
Chaps, help!
I'm at work and my Classic won't start. It spins happily, with a good battery but just won't fire. I can smell petrol outside, but I can't hear the fuel pump priming as it normally does when you put the ignition on. Correction - I heard it once, but only once. I've wiggled the fuel pump relays under the seat but it's not made any difference. Anything else I can try whilst I'm waiting for the RAC?
Little help over here too!I'm at work and my Classic won't start. It spins happily, with a good battery but just won't fire. I can smell petrol outside, but I can't hear the fuel pump priming as it normally does when you put the ignition on. Correction - I heard it once, but only once. I've wiggled the fuel pump relays under the seat but it's not made any difference. Anything else I can try whilst I'm waiting for the RAC?
My '91 3.9 EFI is showing the same symptoms. Theres fuel in the fuel rail and its pumping nicely, it also has spark at the coil and at the plug. The spark at the plug maybe didn't look particularly strong though, It was a yellowy orange and I had sort of expected like a white flash?
I had been driving round our farm in it for maybe 4 hours, then it just cut clean out, no splutters or miss fires just died a death.
I also have another '91 which is being split for parts (engine and gearbox used in a winch challenge 100" defender) floor is rotten but any trim pieces interior parts etc are available and within limits you'd only need to square me off for postage!
CAPP0 said:
Plus I'm pretty sure there's another on eBay at present.
Edit: Ha - make that at least 4!
Edit 2: changed my search, now there are 7. Are we up to the full 15 yet?
Quick look on the how many left site shows only 190 LSE's registered compared to 512 sorn'd. No idea how that's split between soft & hard dash. Edit: Ha - make that at least 4!
Edit 2: changed my search, now there are 7. Are we up to the full 15 yet?
Edited by CAPP0 on Sunday 14th January 17:49
Hard dash from late 1992 with early 1994 to 95 for soft dash would suggest they were in production for roughly the same length of time so seems a bit low if there's only a handful of hard dash left? Based on the bulkhead of my swb soft dash I'm surprised there's any left!
Tam_Mullen said:
Little help over here too!
My '91 3.9 EFI is showing the same symptoms. Theres fuel in the fuel rail and its pumping nicely, it also has spark at the coil and at the plug. The spark at the plug maybe didn't look particularly strong though, It was a yellowy orange and I had sort of expected like a white flash?
I had been driving round our farm in it for maybe 4 hours, then it just cut clean out, no splutters or miss fires just died a death.
I also have another '91 which is being split for parts (engine and gearbox used in a winch challenge 100" defender) floor is rotten but any trim pieces interior parts etc are available and within limits you'd only need to square me off for postage!
Possibly the ignition amplifier.My '91 3.9 EFI is showing the same symptoms. Theres fuel in the fuel rail and its pumping nicely, it also has spark at the coil and at the plug. The spark at the plug maybe didn't look particularly strong though, It was a yellowy orange and I had sort of expected like a white flash?
I had been driving round our farm in it for maybe 4 hours, then it just cut clean out, no splutters or miss fires just died a death.
I also have another '91 which is being split for parts (engine and gearbox used in a winch challenge 100" defender) floor is rotten but any trim pieces interior parts etc are available and within limits you'd only need to square me off for postage!
http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/classic/e...
paintman said:
Tam_Mullen said:
Little help over here too!
My '91 3.9 EFI is showing the same symptoms. Theres fuel in the fuel rail and its pumping nicely, it also has spark at the coil and at the plug. The spark at the plug maybe didn't look particularly strong though, It was a yellowy orange and I had sort of expected like a white flash?
I had been driving round our farm in it for maybe 4 hours, then it just cut clean out, no splutters or miss fires just died a death.
I also have another '91 which is being split for parts (engine and gearbox used in a winch challenge 100" defender) floor is rotten but any trim pieces interior parts etc are available and within limits you'd only need to square me off for postage!
Possibly the ignition amplifier.My '91 3.9 EFI is showing the same symptoms. Theres fuel in the fuel rail and its pumping nicely, it also has spark at the coil and at the plug. The spark at the plug maybe didn't look particularly strong though, It was a yellowy orange and I had sort of expected like a white flash?
I had been driving round our farm in it for maybe 4 hours, then it just cut clean out, no splutters or miss fires just died a death.
I also have another '91 which is being split for parts (engine and gearbox used in a winch challenge 100" defender) floor is rotten but any trim pieces interior parts etc are available and within limits you'd only need to square me off for postage!
http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/classic/e...
DKL said:
Hope you checked the bulkhead Purso
I'm biased but I like the newer look. For day to day stuff the creature comforts are nice.
What needs fixing?
The list is getting longer as they usually do I'm biased but I like the newer look. For day to day stuff the creature comforts are nice.
What needs fixing?
Currently at;drivers door lock sometimes doesnt open from the inside
cruise control not operational
suspesnion light on
abs light on
traction control light on
both front seats need re trimming
4 wheels need refurbishing
most body pannels need attention (see what exciting stuff comes up when they come off)
Its in with graham goodyer today to see what the mechanical items come to
Suspension light and door lock came up on my drive home and my next drive so nice surprise.Still wasnt much choice about and there is a lot of good stuff about the car!
Purso said:
The list is getting longer as they usually do Currently at;
drivers door lock sometimes doesnt open from the inside
cruise control not operational
suspesnion light on
abs light on
traction control light on
both front seats need re trimming
4 wheels need refurbishing
most body pannels need attention (see what exciting stuff comes up when they come off)
Its in with graham goodyer today to see what the mechanical items come to Suspension light and door lock came up on my drive home and my next drive so nice surprise.
Still wasnt much choice about and there is a lot of good stuff about the car!
To be honest it’s with exactly the right chap to fix all of those things and not end up having to remortgage. So long as it’s solid you’ll end up with a good car. Currently at;drivers door lock sometimes doesnt open from the inside
cruise control not operational
suspesnion light on
abs light on
traction control light on
both front seats need re trimming
4 wheels need refurbishing
most body pannels need attention (see what exciting stuff comes up when they come off)
Its in with graham goodyer today to see what the mechanical items come to
Suspension light and door lock came up on my drive home and my next drive so nice surprise.Still wasnt much choice about and there is a lot of good stuff about the car!
No repeat of my earlier troubles (/ touch wood). Fitted a new coil as a precaution but didn’t seem to make any difference. I can only think it got damp on my way in to work as I went down the motorway and there was a lot of spray. Fingers crossed that’s all it was. Still plenty of snow about today...
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