Gosh oh golly, I bought a Dolly.
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Horsetan said:
a8hex said:
Breadvan72 said:
Any 70s steel car can become a rustbucket if you let it.
You don't even have to go back as far as the 70s. SWMBO had a new Merc in the early noughties and that rusted like you just wouldn't believe. The repair guys said it wasn't just our one, they were kept really busy replacing panels etc... We had 3 replacement tail gates in the years we had it.Oh and don't forget doors, they used to rust through too, all of ours were in need of redoing when we part-ex'd the car, along with quite a few more panels - again.
johnxjsc1985 said:
aeropilot said:
Yep, and the serious rot is usually where it can't be seen. The hidden inner sills for example.
Back in 1984, when only 7 years old, my fathers 2500S estate was mildly t-boned and needed a new pass rear door skin and outer sill panel. When the bodyshop removed the outer sill........err...........well, there was no inner sill and lower b-post left, all rotted out. Was likely that other side was as bad as car was put on jig and found to be bending in middle such was the lack of strength left in the shell.............car was thus written off, as uneconomical to repair.
Dad was gutted, he loved that car.
If you can actually find sills or inner sills still for sale they cost more than the Cars are worth.Back in 1984, when only 7 years old, my fathers 2500S estate was mildly t-boned and needed a new pass rear door skin and outer sill panel. When the bodyshop removed the outer sill........err...........well, there was no inner sill and lower b-post left, all rotted out. Was likely that other side was as bad as car was put on jig and found to be bending in middle such was the lack of strength left in the shell.............car was thus written off, as uneconomical to repair.
Dad was gutted, he loved that car.
IroningMan said:
I ran 2500s when I was a student. Front wings were £250 in 1986...
One Car I saw had about 6 or 7 patches on the passenger floor and the sills looked ready to fall off. It was the only Estate Car I managed to see and it was just too far gone to be worthy of economic restoration.Bloody shame as they look really good even today.
Ebay has a second hand wing for sale £450.00p.
Edited by johnxjsc1985 on Sunday 26th November 12:38
IroningMan said:
I ran 2500s when I was a student. Front wings were £250 in 1986...
johnxjsc1985 said:
....Ebay has a second hand wing for sale £450.00p.
How much??? Hell, I thought BMW E24 wings were expensive at £600 each....Breadvan72 said:
Uncatalysed petrol noms -
What you need are uncatalysed leaded petrol noms..... 
johnxjsc1985 said:
IroningMan said:
I ran 2500s when I was a student. Front wings were £250 in 1986...
One Car I saw had about 6 or 7 patches on the passenger floor and the sills looked ready to fall off. It was the only Estate Car I managed to see and it was just too far gone to be worthy of economic restoration.Bloody shame as they look really good even today.
Ebay has a second hand wing for sale £450.00p.
johnxjsc1985 said:
IroningMan said:
I ran 2500s when I was a student. Front wings were £250 in 1986...
One Car I saw had about 6 or 7 patches on the passenger floor and the sills looked ready to fall off. It was the only Estate Car I managed to see and it was just too far gone to be worthy of economic restoration.Bloody shame as they look really good even today.
Ebay has a second hand wing for sale £450.00p.
Edited by johnxjsc1985 on Sunday 26th November 12:38
Unfortunately this wasn't lost on the banger boys, who preferred the earlier cars and got through a lot of them.
I think the 1974 face lift saw the move to cheaper Russian steel which was the start of the rot.
In addition to the facelift changes already identified to the big Triumph range, the facelift also marked the change in the dial faces and needles, the cheaper loop-pile 'mat around the loo' carpet in place of the previous cut pile, the introduction of the 2500TC as a third model and, in the case of the PI, a change from pretend rostyle trims with black painted indented sections to pretend rostyle trims with unpainted indented sections). The 2.5PI became known as the 2500PI before being withdrawn shortly afterwards and replaced as range topper with the 2500S which was, in effect, the much lower powered 2500TC in a fancy frock.
In addition to the facelift changes already identified to the big Triumph range, the facelift also marked the change in the dial faces and needles, the cheaper loop-pile 'mat around the loo' carpet in place of the previous cut pile, the introduction of the 2500TC as a third model and, in the case of the PI, a change from pretend rostyle trims with black painted indented sections to pretend rostyle trims with unpainted indented sections). The 2.5PI became known as the 2500PI before being withdrawn shortly afterwards and replaced as range topper with the 2500S which was, in effect, the much lower powered 2500TC in a fancy frock.
IroningMan said:
There was significant 'decontenting' when the 2000 and 2500PI were otherwise very mildly facelifted in 1973; out went alloy grille and chromed alloy heater intake, replaced with plastic and pressed steel respectively, out went dimmable instrument lights and various other bits of interior refinement. I don't know about now, but back when I was running them - and working part-time in a garage that specialised in them - the earlier cars seemed to fare better than the later ones, with the very late 'S' models worst of all. Certainly the K-reg and very early M-reg PIs I had were much less rusty than the late M-reg 2500TC I started with, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if either the quality of the steel or the treatment of it was pared-back at the same time.
Unfortunately this wasn't lost on the banger boys, who preferred the earlier cars and got through a lot of them.
My Dad had a K-reg 2000TC Estate auto for 5 years prior to the 2500S auto estate, and although older, that was in much better nick than the later R-reg 2500S. He bought the 2000TC off a mate, and really wanted a 2.5Pi estate but even back in the late 70's they were thin on the ground. A work colleague at the time had a lovely L-reg 2.5Pi estate, MOD, dark green, tan interior, sundym glass etc., bought it at about 2 years old. Was a lovely car that, but the few good ones around at the time were out of Dad's reach financially. Same for the nice 2500S estates when he started looking for one of them in the early 80's....probably why he ended up with a shed instead as it was only one to be found in his price range.Unfortunately this wasn't lost on the banger boys, who preferred the earlier cars and got through a lot of them.
I did a lot of miles at the wheel of those two Triumphs in my early years of driving.
Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 28th November 08:19
aeropilot said:
My Dad had a K-reg 2000TC Estate auto for 5 years prior to the 2500S auto estate, and although older, that was in much better nick than the later R-reg 2500S. He bought the 2000TC off a mate, and really wanted a 2.5Pi estate but even back in the late 70's they were thin on the ground. A work colleague at the time had a lovely L-reg 2.5Pi estate, MOD, dark green, tan interior, sundym glass etc., bought it at about 2 years old. Was a lovely car that, but the few good ones around at the time were out of Dad's reach financially. Same for the nice 2500S estates when he started looking for one of them in the early 80's....probably why he ended up with a shed instead as it was only one to be found in his price range.
I did a lot of miles at the wheel of those two Triumphs in my early early of driving.
My first 100k miles, my first speeding ticket (88 mph on the A35 with no windscreen in the car - which didn't seem to faze the officer one bit) and almost everything I have learned about corroded fasteners.I did a lot of miles at the wheel of those two Triumphs in my early early of driving.
Breadvan72 said:
Sold!
That dreadful sinking feeling when someone else drives away in your car, and you have to fight the desire to run down the street shouting "I've changed me mind, I've changed me mind!" only to watch your former pride and joy potter around a corner... never to be seen again (probably).Perhaps I get too attached to my cars.
Glad you sold it though BV - reckon you'll have another at some point?
Faust66 said:
That dreadful sinking feeling when someone else drives away in your car, and you have to fight the desire to run down the street shouting "I've changed me mind, I've changed me mind!" only to watch your former pride and joy potter around a corner... never to be seen again (probably).....
....matched only by the other sinking feeling when you can't remember whether he had paid you or not.Horsetan said:
Faust66 said:
That dreadful sinking feeling when someone else drives away in your car, and you have to fight the desire to run down the street shouting "I've changed me mind, I've changed me mind!" only to watch your former pride and joy potter around a corner... never to be seen again (probably).....
....matched only by the other sinking feeling when you can't remember whether he had paid you or not.
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