Impromptu BL line up

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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williamp said:
I came very close to buying an elite when I was young. I could afford the insurance but I didnt feel I had the mechanical knowledge/ understanding parents enough to take the chance. The one I saw was descrived as "good condition... for an elite" and had such charms as exhaust stubs which were different lengths AND exited at different angles. Still I loved/love the shape and would really consider a good one now. Or a late mode Excel SE...
Head over heart makes a late model Excel SE THE one to have. That is a serious proposition as a daily driver. It may be the best car that Lotus ever made. Heart over head says get an Elite or Eclat, for sheer shonkytasticalness and Lotus-y pain in the butt factor, but LOTS of style and fun.

seiben

2,347 posts

135 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I thought you overtook me whilst out cycling yesterday, going past Lassco's on the A329. However upon checking this thread the Lotus I saw had a square rear plate and yours is rectangular. Not being hugely up on my 70s Lotuses I'm not entirely sure what I saw, but it sounded nice.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Not me, I was nowhere near there, dodgy revolving 007 plate or not.

PS: drive any wedge Lotus with pop up lamps (and all wedge Lotuses have pop up lamps) and people say "Oooh, James Bond car!", so you have to say "No, it isn't".

(Unless it is.)

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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PS: I say nowhere near but was in fact about five miles away. Two old Lotus wedges in the same five mile radius on one Sunday, with no car shows in progress: - Spoooooooky.

This morning I drove down a back lane in the Elite and was rewarded by meeting an E type hard top, and also an early 80s Celica (or similar Toyotakoop - Jap semi-wedge of 80sness). Much waving and gurning and headlamp pop upping and downing (Elite and Celica, not Jag, obvs) ensued.

seiben

2,347 posts

135 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I do miss the days of headlight-waggling (I've had three eighties Jap heaps in the past). Yesterday was pretty rich for car spotting actually - I stumbled across a rather special looking Bugatti of some sort leaving one of the houses in a nearby back road. No idea what it was - 1920s/30s vintage at a guess - but the owner was gracious enough to acknowledge a rather enthusiastic thumbs up from an oik in an Impreza hehe

iSore

4,011 posts

145 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
It may be the best car that Lotus ever made.
That was the FWD Elan, a superb machine that was reliable and enormous fun to drive. However, the late Excel was a very well sorted car with the Toyota bits and the 2.2 Lotus unit demons well and truly exorcised.A mate of mine had two and despite the naysayers, proved astonishingly dependable.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

133 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Best Lotus? 7.

An alternative answer being "one that is currently functioning".

jith

2,752 posts

216 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Yertis said:
AW111 said:
Breadvan72 said:
I am imagining a twenty-something ergonomics engineer for Audi tearing at his hipster beard over that panel.
I like it.
The labels (in what looks like Eurostile Bold Caps) are very "UFO". I prefer the dashboard of the earlier cars and as the Elite/Eclat/Excels evolved the dash got less and less interesting. My own preferred version is that in the early Excel. That model also benefits IMO from a purer interpretation of Winterbottom's original design, without the unnecessary Quattro-influence wheel arches.

Unusually for me I'm doing my homework on this model before I take the plunge and buy one.
I thought that was Fireball XL5!!

J

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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As my train drew out of my commuter-Hell station yesterday morning (just one more year of torture and then I am back in London full time, and even now I have a weeknight crashpad in Smokeyville, yaaay!), a young girl across the aisle was announcing to her parents her car spottings. The Elite was parked alone at the London end of the large carpark. So the girl narrated "Yellow Mini, blue Mini, yellow Mini .... weird car."

Poisson96

2,098 posts

132 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Children are enthralled enough by my heap, the Lotus must melt the brain.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Pop the car's headlights up as you pass a group of children and they all drop their ice lollies.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Pop the car's headlights up as you pass a group of children and they all drop their ice lollies.
must not must not make really tasteless joke

I have heard if you do this down camden way all the hipster women drop their knickers. ( this may or may not be a lie)

LanceRS

2,173 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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I've just seen the Lotus in the station car park. Could not help but notice the headlights proudly protruding from the front of the wedge shaped loveliness. Forgive my ignorance but, Is there an issue with them or is it something as simple as just turning the ignition off before turning them off?
The little girl is right, it truly does stand out among the dull modern machinery.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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On old Lotuses with vacuum operated pop up lamps it is normal for the lamps to move slowly to the open position once the car has been standing for a bit. When you turn the engine on and the vacuum system operates, the lights go down again. With (RWD) Elans you sometimes see the car winking, with one lamp up and one down.

Series 2 Elites and Eclats and all Excels have an electric system for the lights, and the owner of this Elite may fit that system as a mod.

Mods, wise, the car already has electronic ignition and an improved air intake

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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V8 Fettler said:
Best Lotus? 7.

An alternative answer being "one that is currently functioning".
Best Lotus? The one that your friend has lent you.

Scotty2

1,276 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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It's happened!

The next addition to the Beige BL fleet joining the not beige Metro, Allegro and Maxi, It's the Wedgetastic:



Thankfully due to a buyer who didn't, it's now mine.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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My grandad was really into Princesses and Ambassadors, he must have owned at least a dozen of them over the years. I remember being roped into changing the rubber rear suspension mountings on almost every one of them as well mad

He also had a penchant for Rover SD1s and 800s, before a brief foray into ageing Subarus. He was a regular at the local car auction well into his 80's, buying up any of the cheap and knackered outstanding BL produce smile

Edited by Mr2Mike on Tuesday 8th August 13:03

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
On old Lotuses with vacuum operated pop up lamps it is normal for the lamps to move slowly to the open position once the car has been standing for a bit. When you turn the engine on and the vacuum system operates, the lights go down again. With (RWD) Elans you sometimes see the car winking, with one lamp up and one down.

Series 2 Elites and Eclats and all Excels have an electric system for the lights, and the owner of this Elite may fit that system as a mod.

Mods, wise, the car already has electronic ignition and an improved air intake
You are slowly heading to TR7 territory with winking headlights. This normally happened when going over a bump.A very complicated method of what looked like windscreen wiper motors, cams and switches.

Mine was wired really badly and either one was up and the other down so I can understand why they were disconnected.

Finished up rewiring the whole car in the end and it also had those alarms with a keyswitch drilled into the rear panel and a tremble weight for alarm detection that was so tangled into the cars wiring it was an utter mess with scotchlock and insulation tape.

I also had a Lotus Eclat for a short while.

Edited by Morningside on Tuesday 8th August 14:10

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
My grandad was really into Princesses and Ambassadors, he must have owned at least a dozen of them over the years. I remember being roped into changing the rubber rear suspension mountings on almost every one of them as well mad

He also had a penchant for Rover SD1s and 800s, before a brief foray into ageing Subarus. He was a regular at the local car auction well into his 80's, buying up any of the cheap and knackered outstanding BL produce smile

Edited by Mr2Mike on Tuesday 8th August 13:03

I will confess to a penchant for the wedge ; not only was it a gigantic improvement on the beyond parody Maxi I remember being astounded at the amount of room in them and their ride, comfort and suppression of NVH was better than anything this side of a CX

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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coppice said:

I will confess to a penchant for the wedge ; not only was it a gigantic improvement on the beyond parody Maxi I remember being astounded at the amount of room in them and their ride, comfort and suppression of NVH was better than anything this side of a CX
yes Ride quality was exceptionally good, with serviceable rubber mounts and hydragas displacer units.