Another mystery car

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MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Not read all of the thread, so it's probably been put forward.

The lines definitely look Francis Lombardi-esque to me, with that odd front windcreen showing up as a similar thing on some of his designs - but as a rear window.







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Looking at other Italian cars of the late 1950s/early 1960s, that windscreen also has a hint of the Alfa Romeo Super Flow concept... which was also a gullwing-door idea.



Edited by MikeT66 on Thursday 12th July 17:13

TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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LarJammer said:
uk66fastback said:
anonymous said:
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I would actually eat any sized hat you care to bring along if that were true!
And maybe see the number plate, imagine that!
My Nan was the woman waiting to cross, and she remembers the car - seems to think the reg was 604XYZ or something like that tongue out

I may however be joking here

_Sorted_

331 posts

77 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Have some final renders to do and then out of here! Enjoy and by Sunday that is it. Also, apologies for posting on wrong thread, now deleted.














silverfoxcc

7,689 posts

145 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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TonyRPH said:
My Nan was the woman waiting to cross, and she remembers the car - seems to think the reg was 604XYZ or something like that tongue out

I may however be joking here
Tony

The front number plate is partly visible.... now if all those BS picture enhancement programs we see on CSI etc etc, where they get a pin sharp image of a plate 2 miles away were really true.....


The other thing is that anyone who might recall the car is going to be into their 70's at least.Time is NOT on our side

and without going through the whole thread, have we contacted ( and more importantly have they published the original pic) every car mag still in existence?

uk66fastback

16,541 posts

271 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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I think C&S might have had a mention of it but that drew a blank. Whether it was a news page item or just a brief somewhere I don't know.

Were there any mags back in the early 60s which covered these type of conversions - older PH members may recall some.

Cars and Car Conversions was one but I'm not sure they went to this level - ie (maybe) one-off bodies on used chassis. Who knows though ... I they were about more than putting side windows in your Minivan from memory, although they did a lot of engine stuff and prep for rallying/autocross etc

Top work though _Sorted, I have to say.

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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uk66fastback said:
I think C&S might have had a mention of it but that drew a blank. Whether it was a news page item or just a brief somewhere I don't know.
It was the subject of the their monthly mystery car competition.

CanAm

9,206 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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thegreenhell said:
uk66fastback said:
I think C&S might have had a mention of it but that drew a blank. Whether it was a news page item or just a brief somewhere I don't know.
It was the subject of the their monthly mystery car competition.
And I think it's the first time that nobody has known it.

Carsie

925 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th July 2018
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Dr G said:
anonymous said:
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I was doing exactly the same thing! Saw the link to the '64 show posted and twigged it was an avenue I'd not yet explored.
Still following this one smile

_Sorted_ Thank you so much for your excellent work- really impressive and appreciated.

After initially thinking Sabre my original two-half penny worth turned to a fiberglass special and research threw up that there was a gullwing body at or near to a railway station in Hatfield that had some connection with Costin; try as I might I've lost my t'internet link to the source frown

Adopting the left brain mindset of Dr G I thought that someone who built this would be a 1960's Petrolhead like us, therefore would it not be reasonable to assume that they went to Brands, Snetterton et al now and then? I guess the car had a life of circa 5-10yrs? any pics in the loft guys?




Edited by Carsie on Sunday 15th July 02:41

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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But it doesn't, not in detail - only in vague direction. They were common styling cues at the time, following on from US manufacturers.

Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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Yes it can, because so did a PA Cresta. Just because a car looks a bit like another car doesn't necesarily mean the same person designed them both.

If the mystery car was Michelotti, we can be pretty confident it wouldn't be a mystery car.

Qcarchoo

471 posts

193 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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The canted headlights were very popular in the USA during the fifties.
I'd be interested to know the source of the side windows. They're similar to the rear windows on the minx ( in reverse) but the top slopes downwards towards the squared end. This would suggest that they aren't rear windows.

Of course, they may have a quarterlight obscured by the woman in front.


Edited by Qcarchoo on Monday 16th July 21:17

Carsie

925 posts

204 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Interesting that theDugmaster comments on the Rootes sourced or inspired panels and screen, I saw this today on Retrorides- opposite the A35 Van and parked in between a Thames 300E trader and saloon.


Longnose

248 posts

113 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Sunbeam Alpine with the optional hardtop.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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Michelotti did some really lovely looking cars – Spitfire, Stag etc. But he also did some monsters, like this.

uk66fastback

16,541 posts

271 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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This car is also pictured on about page 3 of this thread ...

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

246 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Only just seen this thread and read the first and last few pages so apologies of this has been mentioned already...

It looks like a Diva to me, around the correct age, still a couple in historic racing. I think the racing ones are less "busy" than the early road going versions.


Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Stubby Pete said:
It looks like a Diva to me
Which bit?

Gareth1974

3,418 posts

139 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Doofus said:
Stubby Pete said:
It looks like a Diva to me
Which bit?
I got some unexpected results when I did a Google image search for a Diva Coupe.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Doofus said:
Stubby Pete said:
It looks like a Diva to me
Which bit?
The bit that refused to go on stage because there were only six, not seven, white labrador puppies in the dressing room.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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AndrewCrown said:
Is the 'mystery car' just a figment of our petrol head imaginations? Are we seeing a blue gull wing door sports car because we want to see something more interesting than an...Austin Taxi? Have I solved the mystery?



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