Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2
Discussion
rufusgti said:
Looking unloved. I'm sure they will get round to restoring it. Am I right in thinking the E-type has always been a notoriously expensive car to restore. I once read the cost of a full resto could reach £100k. I wonder why that is though.
The price of restoration depends on how bad the car is to start with and what level of finish is required!E-Types are not particularly difficult to restore, but do take time to get looking “right”.
The huge bonnet is made up from many curved sections and shimming the hinges to get a good shut line is a PITA.
They seem to rust everywhere, though.
We did a S2 roadster many years ago – colour change (back to original) and a tidy up.
Not wanting show standards (just a decent, usable car keeping as many original bits as possible) made the process easier (and cheaper!).
rufusgti said:
Looking unloved. I'm sure they will get round to restoring it. Am I right in thinking the E-type has always been a notoriously expensive car to restore. I once read the cost of a full resto could reach £100k. I wonder why that is though.
Turbotechnic said:
Yes, cars like this are notoriously expensive to restore correctly. I've rebuilt couple e-types that required full restorations, you'll easily sink 1200-1500 hours labour in metalwork and paint/prep alone. Then you've got all the mechanicals, bright work, interior trim etc etc. 100k is easily spent restoring one.
Good job it doesn't need restoring then. It only needs 'refurbishing' according to the Daily Fail, *and* it could then be worth 'millions'!?You've got to love those lying fictionists at the Daily Fail.
Oh, and they report it sold for a higher figure than every other article I read. They also forgot to mention that Princess Di was know to frequent Surrey from time to time....... their 'professional' journalists must be losing their touch(?)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3484711/Ru...
It's baffling how some E-Type barn finds, ones that've been stood for 20+ years, seem to be able to be pushed out with no effort at all with no brakes seized. People will spend that kind of money on restoring a barn E-Type, yet if someone discovered one of the 140 or so made E-Type kit cars no one would care less. And who wants to spend 100k on a full resto, only to find that the rust will creep back. Pity E-Types weren't made from fibreglass like Reliahts were.
Plinth said:
The price of restoration depends on how bad the car is to start with and what level of finish is required!
E-Types are not particularly difficult to restore, but do take time to get looking “right”.
The huge bonnet is made up from many curved sections and shimming the hinges to get a good shut line is a PITA.
They seem to rust everywhere, though.
We did a S2 roadster many years ago – colour change (back to original) and a tidy up.
Not wanting show standards (just a decent, usable car keeping as many original bits as possible) made the process easier (and cheaper!).
To be honest, some of the E-types you see at shows are literally never driven. Trailered there and home again - I'm talking the ones you'd likely see on the Meguiars stand at the NEC etc ... some early roadster with not a mark ANYWHERE. Fair enough though, as soon as you drive them, there's going to be marks and dirt etc. Why harm your 'investment'?E-Types are not particularly difficult to restore, but do take time to get looking “right”.
The huge bonnet is made up from many curved sections and shimming the hinges to get a good shut line is a PITA.
They seem to rust everywhere, though.
We did a S2 roadster many years ago – colour change (back to original) and a tidy up.
Not wanting show standards (just a decent, usable car keeping as many original bits as possible) made the process easier (and cheaper!).
I've seen plenty of E-Types, and other classics too, at local meets and hardly any look like they've driven anywhere other than a meet up. No dirt to be seen anywhere even under the wheel arches. Makes me wonder if some owners have a bit of OCD when it comes to keeping them ridiculously immaculate (a bit like those that queue up in the p**s rain at a car wash with their status symbol Beemers, Mercs and Audi's), even when they likely don't do many miles in them. I bet even the garage floors are so laboratory clean that you could eat your dinner off of it. It's OTT IMO.
Talking of respraying a classic and keeping true to originality, but i often wonder they don't keep to the original colour. If it's all about originality and keeping the value then why not respray back to what it was prior to being stripped to bare metal?. Example is the E-Type is Reborn, where the car was originally white, yet they chose red for restoration. Couldn't they have kept to the original colour?.
Talking of respraying a classic and keeping true to originality, but i often wonder they don't keep to the original colour. If it's all about originality and keeping the value then why not respray back to what it was prior to being stripped to bare metal?. Example is the E-Type is Reborn, where the car was originally white, yet they chose red for restoration. Couldn't they have kept to the original colour?.
Edited by Jukebag on Sunday 11th February 16:30
I received a call on Friday saying
"you are a car person, any interest in an old Land Rover, hasn't been out of it's garage in 15 years."
So my reply,
"of course i'm interested, when can I come and see it?"
So had a quick look yesterday, and was greeted with this.
Went back to collect it today, blew two tyres up and towed it out of the garage.
Nothing seized, clutch and brakes worked
Winched it on to the trailer and got it back to my friend's workshop.
Engine wasn't seized, but either the wiring to the starter, or the starter motor itself were knackered, so we towed it about 15 yards and it started!
So it moved, changed gear and stopped without any issue!
I'd like to re commission and use it, especially after my Jeep engine blowing last week, but I think the chassis needs a bit too much work for me to do.
"you are a car person, any interest in an old Land Rover, hasn't been out of it's garage in 15 years."
So my reply,
"of course i'm interested, when can I come and see it?"
So had a quick look yesterday, and was greeted with this.
Went back to collect it today, blew two tyres up and towed it out of the garage.
Nothing seized, clutch and brakes worked
Winched it on to the trailer and got it back to my friend's workshop.
Engine wasn't seized, but either the wiring to the starter, or the starter motor itself were knackered, so we towed it about 15 yards and it started!
So it moved, changed gear and stopped without any issue!
I'd like to re commission and use it, especially after my Jeep engine blowing last week, but I think the chassis needs a bit too much work for me to do.
Gunk said:
Looks like a repainted ex-British Telecom Landie, is there any trace of yellow or grey paint?
I was told it was ex army.Green everywhere inside and out.
Not full spec, so maybe one for getting about the bases?
Log book possibly backs this up, it was manufactured in '86, registered in '98 with one owner since then.
Had to take the OH for an appointment in the city today, saw this as we walked back to our car:
It isn't registered but appeared to have a valid resident's parking permit.
Then the OH says "Oh look, another one."
Sat round the corner was this 1951 version:
It is registered (expires in August) and also had a parking permit. Worth pointing out there are no annual inspections here so as long as you pay the rego fee the car stays registered. Based on the rego number I'd say it was re-registered in 2006/2007.
The streetview of the same spot is from March 2014 and they are both there, although the second one is parked directly behind the first one.
It isn't registered but appeared to have a valid resident's parking permit.
Then the OH says "Oh look, another one."
Sat round the corner was this 1951 version:
It is registered (expires in August) and also had a parking permit. Worth pointing out there are no annual inspections here so as long as you pay the rego fee the car stays registered. Based on the rego number I'd say it was re-registered in 2006/2007.
The streetview of the same spot is from March 2014 and they are both there, although the second one is parked directly behind the first one.
Jader1973 said:
Had to take the OH for an appointment in the city today, saw this as we walked back to our car:
It isn't registered but appeared to have a valid resident's parking permit.
Then the OH says "Oh look, another one."
Sat round the corner was this 1951 version:
It is registered (expires in August) and also had a parking permit. Worth pointing out there are no annual inspections here so as long as you pay the rego fee the car stays registered. Based on the rego number I'd say it was re-registered in 2006/2007.
The streetview of the same spot is from March 2014 and they are both there, although the second one is parked directly behind the first one.
Maybe it's the Antipodean cousin of this guy in East Grinstead?It isn't registered but appeared to have a valid resident's parking permit.
Then the OH says "Oh look, another one."
Sat round the corner was this 1951 version:
It is registered (expires in August) and also had a parking permit. Worth pointing out there are no annual inspections here so as long as you pay the rego fee the car stays registered. Based on the rego number I'd say it was re-registered in 2006/2007.
The streetview of the same spot is from March 2014 and they are both there, although the second one is parked directly behind the first one.
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