Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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randomeddy

1,443 posts

138 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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MikeyC said:
TR4man said:
I've posted a picture of this forlorn Ferrari a couple of years ago but it is still there gently rusting away.

It has not moved from this driveway for at least 15 years or so. I'd imagine it is almost worthless now frown

Taken this morning:

Looks like the old girls got a second chance: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERRARI-400-GT-BARN-FIN...

Apparantly
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For restoration, the story behind this car is I lost the keys 3 years after a nut and bolt restoration (i need my arse kicking for this) and never got around to doing anything about it
well, thats a new one !
All somebody needs to do now is identify that little blue sports car and we can move on.

Escort3500

11,937 posts

146 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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I suspect the “nut and bolt” restoration is somewhat fictional.

Hub

6,449 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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It only takes 5 seconds to check that it hasn't been on the road (taxed) since 2000.

4rephill

5,042 posts

179 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Escort3500 said:
I suspect the “nut and bolt” restoration is somewhat fictional.
No, it's genuine - The owner restored a nut, and a bolt for the car, decided it was too much hard work , and so left the rest of the car to just rot away! wink




As of today (1/12/18): 2 bids, taking the price to £8100, and the reserve is not met.

Either there are two delusional idiots bidding on the car thinking they can make money out of it, two of the owner's mates are shill bidding on the car to try and generate interest, or two people are just messing the owner around!

The car's just too far gone to be a worthwhile restoration project.

There's a nice condition, road worthy 400i auto for sale on ebay right now for £34,995, which isn't selling (It's in red, which never seems to suit the 365 GT4 2+2/400/400i/412 series - They always look better in blue, black, or silver for some reason).

To restore the rust bucket 400i, you'd need to put at least: £30K into the body work, £30K into the mechanicals, £10K into sorting out the electrics, £10K to sort out the interior, and I suspect, £10K~£20K on the chassis. Basically, to restore the car properly, you've got to be looking at spending at least £100K - on a car realistically worth @ £35K ~ £50K!


As a parts car, it's so far gone, I'd be amazed if there's £4K still in it - Which again makes the "Reserve not met" at £8100 crazy.

If someone is genuinely offering £8100 for this car, the owner should grab it with both hands instantly, and run all the way to the bank laughing their heads off!

As I say, either two delusional idiots are bidding on this car, or there's some shill bidding going on!

lowdrag

12,917 posts

214 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Seen at Watkins Glen. Loads of MGs and other makes in the brambles amongst others




rufusgti

2,532 posts

193 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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4rephill said:
No, it's genuine - The owner restored a nut, and a bolt for the car, decided it was too much hard work , and so left the rest of the car to just rot away! wink




As of today (1/12/18): 2 bids, taking the price to £8100, and the reserve is not met.

Either there are two delusional idiots bidding on the car thinking they can make money out of it, two of the owner's mates are shill bidding on the car to try and generate interest, or two people are just messing the owner around!

The car's just too far gone to be a worthwhile restoration project.

There's a nice condition, road worthy 400i auto for sale on ebay right now for £34,995, which isn't selling (It's in red, which never seems to suit the 365 GT4 2+2/400/400i/412 series - They always look better in blue, black, or silver for some reason).

To restore the rust bucket 400i, you'd need to put at least: £30K into the body work, £30K into the mechanicals, £10K into sorting out the electrics, £10K to sort out the interior, and I suspect, £10K~£20K on the chassis. Basically, to restore the car properly, you've got to be looking at spending at least £100K - on a car realistically worth @ £35K ~ £50K!


As a parts car, it's so far gone, I'd be amazed if there's £4K still in it - Which again makes the "Reserve not met" at £8100 crazy.

If someone is genuinely offering £8100 for this car, the owner should grab it with both hands instantly, and run all the way to the bank laughing their heads off!

As I say, either two delusional idiots are bidding on this car, or there's some shill bidding going on!
You probably have more experience than me at restoring cars but how could it need ten thousand quid spending on electrics. Wires and fuses on a car that can't be that complicated electronically. Also the seats look pretty damn good. I dont see why it would need ten thousand quid on the interior. Even if you totally stripped it out, replaced carpets for new custom made, custom made headlining and door cards. It wouldn't cost anywhere near that.
I'm not saying its not a basket case. I actually agree with your 30k on the bodywork. But i think you're over estimating some of those figures.
I have never owned a ferrari though, never mind restored one.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Just had another look at the Ebay listing for the 400i.

Seller not exactly ebay savvy ,ending auction at 20 to midnight on a Monday ,not expecting a bidding war late at night is he.

Watching with interest.

iDrive

418 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Not specific to the 400i auction, but I have seen wrecks that would be uneconomic prospects in the UK sell to markets where the labour is cheaper, even to the extent of fabricating metalwork.

Also, wrecks with identities sell to be rung with stolen vehicles, of course.

hoppo4.2

1,531 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Ok so it's not really a classic but rare in "super sport" trim


Swampy1982

3,309 posts

112 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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how does a car even get that dirty?!

Gav147

979 posts

162 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Indeed, looks like its been there since it was new!

Also what the hell have next door got in their little outbuilding, that's some serious duct!

TonyRPH

12,999 posts

169 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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MOT expired in June 2009 and it has ~ 95k on the clock.

It's SORN so someone must love it still...

MOT history doesn't look too bad either.

Oh, and it's a 2.5 V6

MuscleSaloon

1,557 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Its a Super Touring - one of 250 !

keeef

343 posts

163 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Swampy1982 said:
how does a car even get that dirty?!
Beat me to it! wink

I guess the question is at least partly answered by the moss on the ground around it?

V41LEY

2,897 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Says ‘Free’ on the boot !

hoppo4.2

1,531 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Gav147 said:
Indeed, looks like its been there since it was new!

Also what the hell have next door got in their little outbuilding, that's some serious duct!
It's at the back of some sort of take away.

Swampy1982

3,309 posts

112 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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V41LEY said:
Says ‘Free’ on the boot !
That being the case I propose the following.

1 - ph member to knock om the door and ask for the car
2 - ph member to transport it to my house
3 - ph member(s) to help me spanner it

All above member have access to track it on prearranged days in the year. (Part ownership model)

Let's do it.

RJG46

980 posts

69 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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What we got here then?

Not moved for a while and slowly returning to nature.

LotusOmega375D

7,700 posts

154 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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I’m not a total beard, but it looks like a Jap import 2 door Subaru WRX Type R.

RJG46

980 posts

69 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Thanks. Can't remember the last time I saw a 2 door.