Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 14th July 2020
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DickyC said:


At the bottom of its value curve.
There's probably a major bork that's arrested that dream right there. These cars have a reputation of turning up some biblical bills. Check this out - £17,000 service invoice!!!!




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BENTLEY-CONTINENTA...

riskyj

298 posts

81 months

Tuesday 14th July 2020
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Dapster said:
There's probably a major bork that's arrested that dream right there. These cars have a reputation of turning up some biblical bills. Check this out - £17,000 service invoice!!!!




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BENTLEY-CONTINENTA...
The parts only total £279.77 before vat. How does it total nearly £17k?

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 14th July 2020
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riskyj said:
The parts only total £279.77 before vat. How does it total nearly £17k?
That's page 1 of 7!

DickyC

49,805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th July 2020
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Dapster said:
There's probably a major bork that's arrested that dream right there. These cars have a reputation of turning up some biblical bills. Check this out - £17,000 service invoice!!!!
You could be right. A few years ago I was working in Norbiton and parking in a 30mph backstreet with speed bumps. Most mornings my arrival coincided with just such a Bentley using the road as a rat run. I reckon he was doing about 60. Over the speed bumps the body of the car was unperturbed but by eck the wheels were busy going up and down. Then the car disappeared. Didn't see it for maybe six weeks. Then it came back. Still using the rat run but at about 5mph over the bumps. I guessed at the time it was a financial rather than a humanitarian consideration.

43scotty

141 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Friends photo

NorthernSky

985 posts

118 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Ambleton said:


My friend spotted these two today.

If i wasn't 80miles away then I'd have done some door knocking to try and find the owner.
These live in a small village called Grindleford, IIRC. Peak District.

irocfan

40,541 posts

191 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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12TS said:
If it’s the same one local to me in Essex it’s a Mark 2 Cortina
think it is the same - I had a little wander down the road on street view biggrin

Hugh Jarse

3,528 posts

206 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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43scotty said:
Friends photo
blimey!

LotusOmega375D

7,641 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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43scotty said:


Friends photo
Maybe one for that bloke who recently bought that crusty white 512BBi.

Escort3500

11,919 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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JPvanRossem said:

Another angle. A 1986 car last MOT'd in 2008.
These photos are all the more intriguing and sad when it’s a relatively rare and probably valuable like this (nb I’m not a Ferrari expert)

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Escort3500 said:
These photos are all the more intriguing and sad when it’s a relatively rare and probably valuable like this (nb I’m not a Ferrari expert)
A 412 isn't that valuable even now and was worth far, far less in 2008. They're still not at the level that one like that would be sensible to restore, as far as I know?

I haven't looked at them for a while though

DickyC

49,805 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Jimmy Recard said:
Escort3500 said:
These photos are all the more intriguing and sad when it’s a relatively rare and probably valuable like this (nb I’m not a Ferrari expert)
A 412 isn't that valuable even now and was worth far, far less in 2008. They're still not at the level that one like that would be sensible to restore, as far as I know?

I haven't looked at them for a while though
If you had storage at negligible cost now would be the time to buy. In 1981 I bought my vehicular ambition, a DB4. It wasn't well but it was a matching numbers car, it was in one piece and I paid £2,000. Over the next ten years I dismantled it and started its restoration. My divorce fandangled my Aston plans and in 1991 I had to sell it. I sought advice first from Aston guru Richard Williams. He wasn't interested. He said he was invited frequently to look at DB4s and 5s in poor condition and they just weren't worth restoring. I eventually sold mine in pieces for £10,000 and thought I had done well. If it was in the same unrestored condition now it would be worth about £250,000. So if you have access to a barn or outbuildings, a cheap Ferrari could well be a good investment. Just leave it there and keep it dry. I stayed in touch with the chap who bought the DB4. He still has it. If I drop in to see him he buys me lunch. smile

LotusOmega375D

7,641 posts

154 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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I reckon one of the Italian car parts specialists would buy that for £10k and then strip it for parts and pop them on their website at a total retail price of £250k or so.

MarkwG

4,858 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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LotusOmega375D said:
I reckon one of the Italian car parts specialists would buy that for £10k and then strip it for parts and pop them on their website at a total retail price of £250k or so.
I reckon so, they've been rising on the general classic tide, but one in that condition is still worth more in parts than whole. I've got a soft spot for them, in the right spec & colour they're handsome old brutes.

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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MarkwG said:
I reckon so, they've been rising on the general classic tide, but one in that condition is still worth more in parts than whole. I've got a soft spot for them, in the right spec & colour they're handsome old brutes.
Me too! A dark blue / creme manual 412 is a thing of beauty. I'd love one of those to burble down to the South of France in or blast around Tuscany. I assume they drive like an HGV but they do look and sound good.

Remember this?

TR4man said:
I've posted a picture of this forlorn Ferrari a couple of years ago but it is still there gently rusting away.

It has not moved from this driveway for at least 15 years or so. I'd imagine it is almost worthless now frown

Taken this morning:

The discussion that followed was that even simple replacement parts could run into 5 figures - tot the lot up and you were into multiples of what you could buy a decent one for. This is €90k for example - manual, 80k kms, pristene.



https://www.gallery-aaldering.com/collection/ferra...





StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

152 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Dapster said:
MarkwG said:
I reckon so, they've been rising on the general classic tide, but one in that condition is still worth more in parts than whole. I've got a soft spot for them, in the right spec & colour they're handsome old brutes.
Me too! A dark blue / creme manual 412 is a thing of beauty. I'd love one of those to burble down to the South of France in or blast around Tuscany. I assume they drive like an HGV but they do look and sound good.

Remember this?

TR4man said:
I've posted a picture of this forlorn Ferrari a couple of years ago but it is still there gently rusting away.

It has not moved from this driveway for at least 15 years or so. I'd imagine it is almost worthless now frown

Taken this morning:

The discussion that followed was that even simple replacement parts could run into 5 figures - tot the lot up and you were into multiples of what you could buy a decent one for. This is €90k for example - manual, 80k kms, pristene.



https://www.gallery-aaldering.com/collection/ferra...
That 412 was local to me. It’s gone now.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

152 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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JPvanRossem said:
StuntmanMike said:
That 412 was local to me. It’s gone now.
The white one?
No, the one up the drive TR4man posted.

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Dapster said:
There's probably a major bork that's arrested that dream right there. These cars have a reputation of turning up some biblical bills. Check this out - £17,000 service invoice!!!!




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BENTLEY-CONTINENTA...
Impressive numbers. Especially the mileage from date of registration to service mileage. Taxi?

Wooda80

1,743 posts

76 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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JPvanRossem said:
The white one?
I know where there's another white one.... What are the chances? !


Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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StuntmanMike said:
JPvanRossem said:
StuntmanMike said:
That 412 was local to me. It’s gone now.
The white one?
No, the one up the drive TR4man posted.
That's a 400 not a 412 but yes, reports were that it had vanished. To the Ferrari workshop in the sky most likely.