Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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Watcher of the skies said:

Whatever. The car in question is junk that should have been recycled into something more useful like bean tins years ago. The owner is obviously fed up throwing money at it.

Honey? Is that you? I thought you were at your mothers?

[Watcher of the skies]

It's a knackered old golf. It's not a classic and it's MOT history would suggest that it certainly wasn't yesterday's hero!

[Escort3500]

Watcher of the skies said:

It's a knackered old golf. It's not a classic and it's MOT history would suggest that it certainly wasn't yesterday's hero!

So what constitutes a ‘classic’ in your view?

[droopsnoot]

Escort3500 said:

Watcher of the skies said:

It's a knackered old golf. It's not a classic and it's MOT history would suggest that it certainly wasn't yesterday's hero!

So what constitutes a ‘classic’ in your view?

No, no, no, let's not start all that again, especially in here.

[Dapster]

pubrunner said:

Spotted this, whilst walking the dog . . .

Edited by pubrunner on Monday 14th June 12:51

The Mk 3 was much maligned at the time of launch as it was fatter, slower and more of a middle aged man's car than its predecessor and the 306GTI gave it series heat with a more powerful engine and 6 speed box. My mum had a 16v for a year or so back then, and it was a great car. 148bhp was plenty (the standard 8v had 120) but the handling was fantastic and of course it had all the trad Golf qualities of, well, being a quality car. Absolutely nothing rattled or squeaked, it looked smart and didn't go wrong.

CAR magazine (my reference bible through the 70s, 80s and 90s) said as much - underpowered but benign handling and a chassis you could really lean on and wouldn't get you into any trouble.

I've got a real soft spot for them though as we've all agreed the one in a pic is a total skip.

[alex98uk]

Rover seems to have been parked "recently" and not terrible condition.

Lancia was full of parts and mold.

[_Mja_]

Dapster said:

The Mk 3 was much maligned at the time of launch as it was fatter, slower and more of a middle aged man's car than its predecessor and the 306GTI gave it series heat with a more powerful engine and 6 speed box. My mum had a 16v for a year or so back then, and it was a great car. 148bhp was plenty (the standard 8v had 120) but the handling was fantastic and of course it had all the trad Golf qualities of, well, being a quality car. Absolutely nothing rattled or squeaked, it looked smart and didn't go wrong.

CAR magazine (my reference bible through the 70s, 80s and 90s) said as much - underpowered but benign handling and a chassis you could really lean on and wouldn't get you into any trouble.

I've got a real soft spot for them though as we've all agreed the one in a pic is a total skip.

Yup agree defo maligned. The mk3 8v GTI was pretty rubbish as a GTI but a solid car, however the 16v is a different proposition. Similar, if not slightly quicker than the mk2 16v which by all accounts is a fantastic classic hot hatch.

I've got a mk2 GTI 8v, mk3 16v GTI, Corrado VR6 and Corrado 16v. The mk3 is a bloody good car and quick enough - mine is RRd at 172hp. My Corrado VR has cams and puts put 220hp but the mk3 doesn't feel that much slower.

[_Mja_]

alex98uk said:

Rover seems to have been parked "recently" and not terrible condition.

Lancia was full of parts and mold.

Is that a Lancia integrale? Looks tiny compared to the Rover 200. I'm guessing it must be a different Lancia?

[Teddy Lop]

_Mja_ said:

Dapster said:

The Mk 3 was much maligned at the time of launch as it was fatter, slower and more of a middle aged man's car than its predecessor and the 306GTI gave it series heat with a more powerful engine and 6 speed box. My mum had a 16v for a year or so back then, and it was a great car. 148bhp was plenty (the standard 8v had 120) but the handling was fantastic and of course it had all the trad Golf qualities of, well, being a quality car. Absolutely nothing rattled or squeaked, it looked smart and didn't go wrong.

CAR magazine (my reference bible through the 70s, 80s and 90s) said as much - underpowered but benign handling and a chassis you could really lean on and wouldn't get you into any trouble.

I've got a real soft spot for them though as we've all agreed the one in a pic is a total skip.

Yup agree defo maligned. The mk3 8v GTI was pretty rubbish as a GTI but a solid car, however the 16v is a different proposition. Similar, if not slightly quicker than the mk2 16v which by all accounts is a fantastic classic hot hatch.

I've got a mk2 GTI 8v, mk3 16v GTI, Corrado VR6 and Corrado 16v. The mk3 is a bloody good car and quick enough - mine is RRd at 172hp. My Corrado VR has cams and puts put 220hp but the mk3 doesn't feel that much slower.

I've heard the 8v wasn't marketed as a GTi for most markets, only 16v earned the badge. Did VW invent today's trend of silly sports badging on everything?

[NorthernSky]

In western Lake District. Would've been horrible to get the firetruck all the way to this location - down miles of winding narrow lanes and hairpins...

[_Mja_]

That is great picture! Yes would not to have liked to drive that truck to that spot.

[classicaholic]

NorthernSky said:

In western Lake District. Would've been horrible to get the firetruck all the way to this location - down miles of winding narrow lanes and hairpins...

Ebay after drinking at night causes all sorts of results! I have my own similar but not fire truck yet!

[BryanC]

classicaholic said:

Ebay after drinking at night causes all sorts of results! I have my own similar but not fire truck yet!

Agree this is dangerous ground.
This was the result of my pal enjoying Ebay, tired, late at night, over refreshed with a few glasses of red.
Sadly moved on but was fun for a short while at the local Scout Group and as a pub runabout - as pictured ( July 2007 ) !

[alex98uk]

_Mja_ said:

Is that a Lancia integrale? Looks tiny compared to the Rover 200. I'm guessing it must be a different Lancia?

I'm not sure either. No reg on it to lookup.

It looks like an Integrale at first glance... but I can't imagine it is given the values of them, unless it's awaiting restoration.

I know the place it was at used to tune Lancias many moons ago.

[Mikebentley]

A Wolseley wedge no less hiding in Coseley. So a Coseley Wolseley.

Edited by Mikebentley on Wednesday 16th June 19:26

[AL5026]

Borrowed from the book of face. This makes me sad.

[Dixy]

Mikebentley said:

A Wolseley wedge no less hiding in Coseley. So a Coseley Wolseley.

Edited by Mikebentley on Wednesday 16th June 19:26

That was quite a rare beast even when new, only in production for about a year before they consolidated Wolseley Austin and Morris in to BL Princess.
My Father had several Wolseley 6 and then had one of these, it was awful and he changed it after a year for the newly introduced SD1 Rover.

Edited by Dixy on Wednesday 16th June 21:19

[generationx]

AL5026 said:

Borrowed from the book of face. This makes me sad.

Sadly that looks terminal

[99t]

alex98uk said:

I'm not sure either. No reg on it to lookup.

It looks like an Integrale at first glance... but I can't imagine it is given the values of them, unless it's awaiting restoration.

I know the place it was at used to tune Lancias many moons ago.

Looks like an early 16v Integrale - arches, bonnet, LHD etc. Radiator looks suspiciously new so maybe mid rebuild?

[Stigproducts]

Dixy said:

Mikebentley said:

A Wolseley wedge no less hiding in Coseley. So a Coseley Wolseley.

Edited by Mikebentley on Wednesday 16th June 19:26

That was quite a rare beast even when new, only in production for about a year before they consolidated Wolseley Austin and Morris in to BL Princess.
My Father had several Wolseley 6 and then had one of these, it was awful and he changed it after a year for the newly introduced SD1 Rover.

Edited by Dixy on Wednesday 16th June 21:19

One of the more nerdy classic car journalist, Nick Larkin i think, tried to save the prototype and it was an uphill battle I recall. No one cared except him!