Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2
Discussion
P5BNij said:
4rephill said:
I wonder if it needs a new clutch, it can be an expensive job on these 2003 - 2007 due-select QPVs so it may have been left until the owner can afford to get it done. MarkwG said:
Mr Tidy said:
4rephill said:
2005 - A classic?
Maybe not, but surely one of "Yesterday's Heroes"?So a 2009~2015 Ferrari 458 Italia is a classic?
A 2012~2017 Ford Fiesta ST MK2 is a classic?
A 2007 ~ 2013 BMW E92 M3 is a classic?
They were all admired "in their day", but I don't think many people would describe them as being classic's just yet (they will be one day, but not yet)
It can't be a case of: "But they're all current cars still!" because, for a starting price of £89,950, you can still buy the Quattroporte: https://www.maserati.com/gb/en/models/quattroporte
As it stands, the Quattroporte is a very pretty future classic - But the thread is titled: "Classics left to die/rotting pics" not: "Future Classics left to die/rotting pics"
4rephill said:
MarkwG said:
Mr Tidy said:
4rephill said:
2005 - A classic?
Maybe not, but surely one of "Yesterday's Heroes"?So a 2009~2015 Ferrari 458 Italia is a classic?
A 2012~2017 Ford Fiesta ST MK2 is a classic?
A 2007 ~ 2013 BMW E92 M3 is a classic?
They were all admired "in their day", but I don't think many people would describe them as being classic's just yet (they will be one day, but not yet)
It can't be a case of: "But they're all current cars still!" because, for a starting price of £89,950, you can still buy the Quattroporte: https://www.maserati.com/gb/en/models/quattroporte
As it stands, the Quattroporte is a very pretty future classic - But the thread is titled: "Classics left to die/rotting pics" not: "Future Classics left to die/rotting pics"
If people are sufficiently engaged to consider that it has merit, then frankly, so what? An arbitrary date is exactly that, & semantic arguments about whether the title should be "Classics" or "Future classics" are so inordinately tedious I can barely be bothered to type a response. The chap took a photo & posted it because he thought there might be some people interested to see it. He was right, that's really all the criteria anyone should need.
MarkwG said:
4rephill said:
MarkwG said:
Mr Tidy said:
4rephill said:
2005 - A classic?
Maybe not, but surely one of "Yesterday's Heroes"?So a 2009~2015 Ferrari 458 Italia is a classic?
A 2012~2017 Ford Fiesta ST MK2 is a classic?
A 2007 ~ 2013 BMW E92 M3 is a classic?
They were all admired "in their day", but I don't think many people would describe them as being classic's just yet (they will be one day, but not yet)
It can't be a case of: "But they're all current cars still!" because, for a starting price of £89,950, you can still buy the Quattroporte: https://www.maserati.com/gb/en/models/quattroporte
As it stands, the Quattroporte is a very pretty future classic - But the thread is titled: "Classics left to die/rotting pics" not: "Future Classics left to die/rotting pics"
If people are sufficiently engaged to consider that it has merit, then frankly, so what? An arbitrary date is exactly that, & semantic arguments about whether the title should be "Classics" or "Future classics" are so inordinately tedious I can barely be bothered to type a response. The chap took a photo & posted it because he thought there might be some people interested to see it. He was right, that's really all the criteria anyone should need.
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
TA14 said:
MarkwG said:
4rephill said:
MarkwG said:
Mr Tidy said:
4rephill said:
2005 - A classic?
Maybe not, but surely one of "Yesterday's Heroes"?So a 2009~2015 Ferrari 458 Italia is a classic?
A 2012~2017 Ford Fiesta ST MK2 is a classic?
A 2007 ~ 2013 BMW E92 M3 is a classic?
They were all admired "in their day", but I don't think many people would describe them as being classic's just yet (they will be one day, but not yet)
It can't be a case of: "But they're all current cars still!" because, for a starting price of £89,950, you can still buy the Quattroporte: https://www.maserati.com/gb/en/models/quattroporte
As it stands, the Quattroporte is a very pretty future classic - But the thread is titled: "Classics left to die/rotting pics" not: "Future Classics left to die/rotting pics"
If people are sufficiently engaged to consider that it has merit, then frankly, so what? An arbitrary date is exactly that, & semantic arguments about whether the title should be "Classics" or "Future classics" are so inordinately tedious I can barely be bothered to type a response. The chap took a photo & posted it because he thought there might be some people interested to see it. He was right, that's really all the criteria anyone should need.
Edited by Mr lestat on Tuesday 7th December 14:37
austin said:
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
You can't leave that there! Tell us more.Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
Mr lestat said:
I don’t think Marinas were admires in their day and I don’t think many wax lyrical about them now either. awful when new and 40 years hasn’t improved them
Try telling that to the local retro car club!Our local one is massive (won club of the year etc) and it's full of 'younger ' people getting moist over Marinas, Allegros, Maestro etc.
For those of us who were around when they were new, we remember them how they were!
Mr lestat said:
I don’t think Marinas were admires in their day and I don’t think many wax lyrical about them now either. awful when new and 40 years hasn’t improved them
Don't disagree at all, but at risk of upsetting many people, have a look at this thread - Pistonheads - "Morris Marina - was it really that bad?"austin said:
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
careful - this is "Classics left to die/rotting pics", not "Lets see a picture of your classic(s)" Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
Tyre Smoke said:
austin said:
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
You can't leave that there! Tell us more.Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
Around a 180 or so were thought to have been made originally, very few are left with all of the bits.
It had been left in a lockup garage since 1959, so I think pretty good for this thread.
austin said:
Tyre Smoke said:
austin said:
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
You can't leave that there! Tell us more.Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
Around a 180 or so were thought to have been made originally, very few are left with all of the bits.
It had been left in a lockup garage since 1959, so I think pretty good for this thread.
MarkwG said:
Mr lestat said:
I don’t think Marinas were admires in their day and I don’t think many wax lyrical about them now either. awful when new and 40 years hasn’t improved them
Don't disagree at all, but at risk of upsetting many people, have a look at this thread - Pistonheads - "Morris Marina - was it really that bad?"https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/morris/marina/arch...
austin said:
There are loads of threads talking about the old "what is a classic" loads of twaddle. Please post in those if you are bothered, it's a question that will never be answered to everyone's satisfaction.
Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
That's a nice vintage car you have there.Here is something I have just managed to buy, been sat in a garage since 1959.
For those that don't know, it's quite a special car underneath the homemade body.
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