Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

[uk66fastback]

Both pics courtesy of BookFace

[Watcher of the skies]

Mr lestat said:

andrew-494ym said:

I don’t know if this has been posted before, Triumph 2000 ? looking very sorry for itself, it’s at Toft Hill on the A68 County Durham. Apologies for the crap pic, I was driving my van very slowly creeping towards a junction. It’s been there at least 7-8 years to my knowledge. I’ve been meaning to post a pic for ages.
Andy.

That’ll fall apart as soon as it’s moved

Looks that way. What a shame.

[CAPP0]

NorthernSky said:

required a 4 mile hike to access them

Or a Defender! (Unless someone carried them the 4 miles in!! )

[Chunkychucky]

uk66fastback said:

Both pics courtesy of BookFace

Christ that E3 touring conversion is rare Deserves to be saved

[Dapster]

Chunkychucky said:

uk66fastback said:

Both pics courtesy of BookFace

Christ that E3 touring conversion is rare Deserves to be saved

Conversion by Crayford if I'm not mistaken. Rare as you say. Problem with the aftermarket estate jobs is that they invariably use the saloon pillars which on an estate look all wrong. You need more upright c pillars and a more vertical tail, otherwise it looks a bit clumsy.



Look at Crayfords Mercedes W114 conversion (which seems to have the same rear side window as the E3, which it turn seems to have come from a suburban conservatory...!) compared to Mercedes's own prototype with the bespoke pillars which look so much more elegant.

[Skyedriver]

andrew-494ym said:

I don’t know if this has been posted before, Triumph 2000 ? looking very sorry for itself, it’s at Toft Hill on the A68 County Durham. Apologies for the crap pic, I was driving my van very slowly creeping towards a junction. It’s been there at least 7-8 years to my knowledge. I’ve been meaning to post a pic for ages.
Andy.

As soon as I saw the photo I knew where that was, used to pass it a lot.

[keeef]

uk66fastback said:

Looks like they nicked a Maxi tailgate!

[MarkwG]

Dapster said:

Chunkychucky said:

uk66fastback said:

Both pics courtesy of BookFace

Christ that E3 touring conversion is rare Deserves to be saved

Conversion by Crayford if I'm not mistaken. Rare as you say. Problem with the aftermarket estate jobs is that they invariably use the saloon pillars which on an estate look all wrong. You need more upright c pillars and a more vertical tail, otherwise it looks a bit clumsy.



Look at Crayfords Mercedes W114 conversion (which seems to have the same rear side window as the E3, which it turn seems to have come from a suburban conservatory...!) compared to Mercedes's own prototype with the bespoke pillars which look so much more elegant.

You're absolutely right, of course: the problem for the small scale guys is that means modifying the rear doors, which is a whole lot more pain, aggravation & cash, so they don't bother - lumps of Maxi aren't going to work for that one.

[Teddy Lop]

Dapster said:

Conversion by Crayford if I'm not mistaken. Rare as you say. Problem with the aftermarket estate jobs is that they invariably use the saloon pillars which on an estate look all wrong. You need more upright c pillars and a more vertical tail, otherwise it looks a bit clumsy.



Look at Crayfords Mercedes W114 conversion (which seems to have the same rear side window as the E3, which it turn seems to have come from a suburban conservatory...!) compared to Mercedes's own prototype with the bespoke pillars which look so much more elegant.

You could get away with the C/D pillars being "leany" if the C had no more meat than the B pillar, as the first and last pillars Should frame the car with the ones inbetween less prominent. That's why bulky C pillar estate converts look st, as the bulky C pillar concludes the design then there's a tacked on bit.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

andrew-494ym said:

I don’t know if this has been posted before, Triumph 2000 ? looking very sorry for itself, it’s at Toft Hill on the A68 County Durham. Apologies for the crap pic, I was driving my van very slowly creeping towards a junction. It’s been there at least 7-8 years to my knowledge. I’ve been meaning to post a pic for ages.
Andy.

Proper stance on that, innit Bruv

[TA14]

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

andrew-494ym said:

I don’t know if this has been posted before, Triumph 2000 ? looking very sorry for itself, it’s at Toft Hill on the A68 County Durham. Apologies for the crap pic, I was driving my van very slowly creeping towards a junction. It’s been there at least 7-8 years to my knowledge. I’ve been meaning to post a pic for ages. Andy.

Proper stance on that, innit Bruv

The 'rat' look

[Fastdruid]

Teddy Lop said:

Dapster said:

Conversion by Crayford if I'm not mistaken. Rare as you say. Problem with the aftermarket estate jobs is that they invariably use the saloon pillars which on an estate look all wrong. You need more upright c pillars and a more vertical tail, otherwise it looks a bit clumsy.



Look at Crayfords Mercedes W114 conversion (which seems to have the same rear side window as the E3, which it turn seems to have come from a suburban conservatory...!) compared to Mercedes's own prototype with the bespoke pillars which look so much more elegant.

You could get away with the C/D pillars being "leany" if the C had no more meat than the B pillar, as the first and last pillars Should frame the car with the ones inbetween less prominent. That's why bulky C pillar estate converts look st, as the bulky C pillar concludes the design then there's a tacked on bit.

Found out the other day that the BX estate was little more than an extra section tacked on to a hatch (as in literally there is the hatch floor pan and then an extra section attached on at the end). Taking that into consideration I don't think it looks too bad, certainly not as bad as the terrible W114 and E3 above. Still looks a bit off as the rear door at the top "droops" slightly.

[LotusOmega375D]

I think you’re being kind by posting that particular image. Here is a more standard one. Citroen obviously tried to hide the rear side window mess by painting the pillars and frames black.

[TonyRPH]

Honda didn't do a very good job either....

[P5BNij]

I still can't make my mind up about the P6 Estoura by Panelcraft....

[LargeRed]

[LargeRed]

[TonyRPH]

LargeRed said:

Good grief, that's bad...

[Fastdruid]

LotusOmega375D said:

I think you’re being kind by posting that particular image. Here is a more standard one. Citroen obviously tried to hide the rear side window mess by painting the pillars and frames black.

I agree but at the same time that's a phase 1, the one I posted was a phase 2 so while they're both "BX's" they're also quite different in details.

The obvious difference at a glance is that the phase 1 have an indicator that is roughly half the height of the headlights while the phase 2 has one that is full height. Generally though I think the phase 2 all look better than the phase 1 (and that goes double for the estate).

[52classic]

MarkwG said:

Dapster said:

Chunkychucky said:

uk66fastback said:

Both pics courtesy of BookFace

Christ that E3 touring conversion is rare Deserves to be saved

Conversion by Crayford if I'm not mistaken. Rare as you say. Problem with the aftermarket estate jobs is that they invariably use the saloon pillars which on an estate look all wrong. You need more upright c pillars and a more vertical tail, otherwise it looks a bit clumsy.



Look at Crayfords Mercedes W114 conversion (which seems to have the same rear side window as the E3, which it turn seems to have come from a suburban conservatory...!) compared to Mercedes's own prototype with the bespoke pillars which look so much more elegant.

You're absolutely right, of course: the problem for the small scale guys is that means modifying the rear doors, which is a whole lot more pain, aggravation & cash, so they don't bother - lumps of Maxi aren't going to work for that one.

The E3 looks to have a Maxi tailgate and probably the D posts. Pity if it doesn't get saved even though or maybe because these conversions have a 'Heath Robinson' look to them. My own XJ6 Avon was no looker but a great curiosity piece at shows as well as on the road. That featured a Renault 5 rear body and a Volvo 245 rear floor.