Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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ClaphamGT3

11,307 posts

244 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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captain.scarlet said:
Plenty in this yard. Went to enquire about the Soarer I posted a photo of a couple of weeks ago only to learn it had just been sold.

Photos below of a Mazda, couple of Rollses and a UK-spec Rover P5B.





























The Rover will be an ex Embassy car I expect

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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I doubt it as all of the officially exported Ministerial / Ambassadorial cars were Saloons, not Coupes. However it ended up there, it's a late one as the ignition lock is on the steering column, earlier 5PBs had them in the instrument pod wink

Great selection of cars all the same.

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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P5BNij said:
I doubt it as all of the officially exported Ministerial / Ambassadorial cars were Saloons, not Coupes. However it ended up there, it's a late one as the ignition lock is on the steering column, earlier 5PBs had them in the instrument pod wink

Great selection of cars all the same.
That is a saloon? Unless the coupe had 4 doors?

soxboy

6,289 posts

220 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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TonyRPH said:
P5BNij said:
I doubt it as all of the officially exported Ministerial / Ambassadorial cars were Saloons, not Coupes. However it ended up there, it's a late one as the ignition lock is on the steering column, earlier 5PBs had them in the instrument pod wink

Great selection of cars all the same.
That is a saloon? Unless the coupe had 4 doors?
Yes it did

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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soxboy said:
Yes it did
Ooh I stand corrected! A bit like some of these modern "Coupes" then!

ClaphamGT3

11,307 posts

244 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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P5BNij said:
I doubt it as all of the officially exported Ministerial / Ambassadorial cars were Saloons, not Coupes. However it ended up there, it's a late one as the ignition lock is on the steering column, earlier 5PBs had them in the instrument pod wink

Great selection of cars all the same.
I'll bow to your superior P5 knowledge but I'm pretty sure that, when my old man was Military Attache in Nairobi the High Commission had saloons and coupes (disclosure; I was only 5 at the time and memory may be dealing me a dog turd)

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

35 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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Some very interesting trivia above from others above that I've learned here. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I was honestly perplexed to see something British, RHD, with a speed gauge in MPH and regal out here but didn't think or know of the choice of car of the diplomatic or military services.

If the green Rover predates 1971 then it would have some remarkable history behind it as it would been part of the British protectorate Trucial States.

Some further research has revealed that at least one of the Trucial States did drive on the left until 1966. Does anyone know what year this one could be from? I didn't think to pop the bonnet or look for any further clues.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/2021/09/01/rem...

'Dated August 1966, and signed by the director of Dubai Municipality, Kamal Hamza, it states that at 5am on September 1, Dubai will switch to right-hand driving.'



Edited by captain.scarlet on Monday 21st February 18:20

ClaphamGT3

11,307 posts

244 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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captain.scarlet said:
Some very interesting trivia above from others above that I've learned here. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I was honestly perplexed to see something British, RHD, with a speed gauge in MPH and regal out here but didn't think or know of the choice of car of the diplomatic or military services.

If the green Rover predates 1971 then it would have some remarkable history behind it as it would been part of the British protectorate Trucial States.

Some further research has revealed that at least one of the Trucial States did drive on the left until 1966. Does anyone know what year this one could be from? I didn't think to pop the bonnet or look for any further clues.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/2021/09/01/rem...

'Dated August 1966, and signed by the director of Dubai Municipality, Kamal Hamza, it states that at 5am on September 1, Dubai will switch to right-hand driving.'



Edited by captain.scarlet on Monday 21st February 18:20
IIRC the P5B (B denoting the use of the Buick-derived 3.5 V8) was introduced in 1968. The switch to P5B's and Jaguar XJ6s on Embassy/High Commission fleets was still a new thing in the early 1970s, with many Humber Super Snipes/Austin Westminsters and Austin 3 Litres still in use. They were mainly reserved for the Ambassador and senior officials. Bigger/more important missions would also have a Silver Shadow allocated which was used exclusively by the Ambassador for the most formal events and for visiting VIPs (Royalty and senior Govt ministers). As late as 1979, there was still a P5 on the fleet at the Embassy in Washington, albeit relegated to being a back-up car for the SIII XJ6s and woeful US spec Rover SD1s

Lotus Elan +2

459 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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What constitutes a classic car ?
The Corrado is at least 32 years old scratchchin
Apologies for the crap phone pic.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Tornado red always bad for UV fading.

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Lotus Elan +2 said:


What constitutes a classic car ?
The Corrado is at least 32 years old scratchchin
Apologies for the crap phone pic.
I test drove and had plans to buy a 16v Corrado back in about 1994. Tornado red with black interior - on sale at Reading VW. Reckless and precarious financing in place, just another visit to finalise the negotiations of the trade in of my ageing Citroen AX GT and sign on the dotted line. HOWEVER, the weekend before I was due to see the Corrado again, I was following a line of traffic stuck behind a caravan on the M4, traffic pulled over and so I booted it and.... was pulled over by the fuzz doing about 85 and got 3 points for my trouble. After that, couldn't get insurance cover for much less than the cost of Corrado so that plan was shelved.

I did eventually replace the AX with a mk 2 Golf GTI but the Corrado was an amazing handling car and more grown up than the Golf.

Edited by Dapster on Tuesday 22 February 22:42

shed driver

2,172 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Coupe had a rev counter and 4 instruments below the binnacle.

SD.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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TonyRPH said:
soxboy said:
Yes it did
Ooh I stand corrected! A bit like some of these modern "Coupes" then!
The P5 saloons and coupes were different above the waistline, the front and rear windscreens and rooflines don’t match (the coupe is about two or three inches lower), the saloon has full height thick metal door frames and vertical quarter lights at the front, whereas the coupe has slim stainless steel upper frames and sloping quarter lights. Viewed front on the saloon’s windscreen is flatter at the top and the coupe’s is much more rounded.

wink

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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captain.scarlet said:
Plenty in this yard. Went to enquire about the Soarer I posted a photo of a couple of weeks ago only to learn it had just been sold.

Photos below of a Mazda, couple of Rollses and a UK-spec Rover P5B.

Someone's fitted an aftermarket rev counter and relocated the normal fuel/oil/water temp gauges to the centre console - or maybe RR did that as a factory extra although the execution seems a bit Halfords. Seems a bit of an odd option to fit to a stately old Silver Spur!



Its Just Adz

14,139 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I really hope there is a plan to revive these.


uk66fastback

16,573 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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soxboy

6,289 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Its Just Adz said:
I really hope there is a plan to revive these.

Blimey, I valued that place about 6 years ago and they were there then. At the time they were beyond salvation so can't see that it's improved. The Miami blue one had loads of repair panels cut out of it.

I recall in the yard at the back there were a couple of Fiat Coupes rotting away.

Its Just Adz

14,139 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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soxboy said:
Blimey, I valued that place about 6 years ago and they were there then. At the time they were beyond salvation so can't see that it's improved. The Miami blue one had loads of repair panels cut out of it.

I recall in the yard at the back there were a couple of Fiat Coupes rotting away.
That's a shame.

I didn't go in the yard, was in a job just around the corner.

Watcher of the skies

533 posts

38 months

Thursday 24th February 2022
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That Renault 5 looks surprisingly rust free

Mr Peel

482 posts

123 months

Thursday 24th February 2022
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ClaphamGT3 said:
As late as 1979, there was still a P5 on the fleet at the Embassy in Washington, albeit relegated to being a back-up car for the SIII XJ6s and woeful US spec Rover SD1s
P5s always remind me of the footage of Thatcher sweeping into Downing Street for the first time - in 1979 of course.