Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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dandare

957 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
dandare said:
It's probably not doing much harm on the side of the road, he's not driving it, so morally, I don't really consider him a lawbreaker.
Is one of your many hobbies pointing out, and getting angry about petty lawbreakers?
I didn't realise that we could choose what is and what isn't lawbreaking?

So if it's near the side of the road that's ok, is it?

What about if he drives it, but only a little bit, and keeps his fingers crossed while he is on the road, but not really?
I worded that badly. Sorry. Lawbreaking is always lawbreaking, by definition. What I meant to say is that I don't consider it as bad as murder, and not worth enforcing in this situation. If you think a law is unjust then you can decide whether it is worth abiding to. Many of us break the law at one time or another. We probably often do it consciously, because we decide that it's a stupid law for the particular occasion. For instance speeding on a deserted motorway. It's not hurting anybody, so why shouldn't we do it? It may be a good law for when the roads are busy, though.

Following the law unquestioningly can be dangerous for a society and a person. We've seen what can happen in the past when people simply follow (bad) laws, without thinking about them.

If he drove the car without insurance, I would find that wrong. It would also happen to be illegal, but I don't think that is important. What matters in that case are the potential consequences of having an accident when uninsured.

Found this car under a log pile in a barn. It hasn't moved in at least 25 years, apparently. Any guesses as to what it is?


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LotusOmega375D

7,641 posts

154 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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A40 Farina

dandare

957 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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LotusOmega375D said:
A40 Farina
Correct. It's a pity to leave it there. I suppose they aren't worth much.

dandare

957 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Mr lestat said:
dandare said:
Mr lestat said:
dandare said:
So it's your job?
Spend more time catching real criminals, is my suggestion. rofl
It’s not my job at all rofl
What exactly are you trying to say? Nothing, possibly?
Exactly that. I’m not a copper. Never have been.
I wondered what you meant by the "thin edge of the wedge".

kimducati

345 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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dandare said:
Correct. It's a pity to leave it there. I suppose they aren't worth much.
It depends on what you think is 'much'.
If it's sound, it'd make a nice little starter classic for someone - I think they're a great little car, and very tuneable!! evil
Kim

keeef

340 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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dandare said:
Correct. It's a pity to leave it there. I suppose they aren't worth much.
Most classics are worth a couple of grand or more these days.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275224794653

52classic

2,534 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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The A40 deserves to be saved but so does the MGF. We bought one of those last year and I never realised what a brilliant 'starter classic' they can be.

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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dandare said:
Mr lestat said:
dandare said:
Mr lestat said:
dandare said:
So it's your job?
Spend more time catching real criminals, is my suggestion. rofl
It’s not my job at all rofl
What exactly are you trying to say? Nothing, possibly?
Exactly that. I’m not a copper. Never have been.
I wondered what you meant by the "thin edge of the wedge".
It’s a figure of speech, an expression nothing more. Haven’t you heard it before ?


uk66fastback

16,572 posts

272 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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You don’t see (m)any Simcas on the road but that’s probably because this bloke owns them all …

CWK 440T was last taxed in 1995.

Over the other side of the barn were these others. Is that an Escort van? Had to snap them blind over a wall …



WRW 906S was last taxed in 2000 …

Edited by uk66fastback on Tuesday 24th May 00:41

soxboy

6,280 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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That's a Maestro van.

T-reg must be one of the very last, plus a WK reg so Coventry - possibly ex factory.

j4r4lly

596 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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uk66fastback said:
You don’t see (m)any Simcas on the road but that’s probably because this bloke owns them all …

CWK 440T was last taxed in 1995.

Over the other side of the barn were these others. Is that an Escort van? Had to snap them blind over a wall …



WRW 906S was last taxed in 2000 …

Edited by uk66fastback on Tuesday 24th May 00:41
My first car was a Simca 1000 GLS. OLX 582L. Long gone now as it was written off by a hit and run driver. Brilliant little cars and rarely seen - except here of course.

Ronaro

200 posts

73 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ronaro said:

Is the second picture in Bishops Stortford?

dandare

957 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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keeef said:
dandare said:
Correct. It's a pity to leave it there. I suppose they aren't worth much.
Most classics are worth a couple of grand or more these days.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275224794653
I assumed it would only be a couple of hundred Pounds. There is some hope for it.

They have a good motorsport history, and being based on the A-series/Morris Minor drivetrain (I think), they are pretty tunable and reliable.
The front wings on this one look like colanders, but the rest looks really solid. No sign of rust on the doors, and it has a split rear hatch. I couldn't get down to the sills to check them.

Gemaeden

291 posts

116 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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dandare said:
The Mad Monk said:
dandare said:
It's probably not doing much harm on the side of the road, he's not driving it, so morally, I don't really consider him a lawbreaker.
Is one of your many hobbies pointing out, and getting angry about petty lawbreakers?
I didn't realise that we could choose what is and what isn't lawbreaking?

So if it's near the side of the road that's ok, is it?

What about if he drives it, but only a little bit, and keeps his fingers crossed while he is on the road, but not really?
I worded that badly. Sorry. Lawbreaking is always lawbreaking, by definition. What I meant to say is that I don't consider it as bad as murder, and not worth enforcing in this situation. If you think a law is unjust then you can decide whether it is worth abiding to. Many of us break the law at one time or another. We probably often do it consciously, because we decide that it's a stupid law for the particular occasion. For instance speeding on a deserted motorway. It's not hurting anybody, so why shouldn't we do it? It may be a good law for when the roads are busy, though.

Following the law unquestioningly can be dangerous for a society and a person. We've seen what can happen in the past when people simply follow (bad) laws, without thinking about them.

If he drove the car without insurance, I would find that wrong. It would also happen to be illegal, but I don't think that is important. What matters in that case are the potential consequences of having an accident when uninsured.
What many believe to be laws are merely legal statutes. It has to do with land and sea jurisdictions. The two began to be deliberately mixed a couple of hundred years ago or so in order to increase revenue for the king. So we currently operate under a system of King's Equity Law.

Laws pertain to people causing harm to others and are based on morals and ethics, while legal matters are simply about raising money for the private corporation known as HM Government and its spinoffs. However the government also call their rules laws, to deliberately confuse people. So leaving an automobile at the side of the road is not lawbreaking, in the true sense of the word.

People are also purposely misidentified as corporations, which as subsidiaries of the government, then come under their control.

I really wish I'd been as interested in the history and application of law from an early age as I was in classic cars, I'd have saved a huge amount of money. Still I'm making up for lost time now.

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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uk66fastback said:
You don’t see (m)any Simcas on the road but that’s probably because this bloke owns them all …


CWK 440T was last taxed in 1995.

Over the other side of the barn were these others. Is that an Escort van? Had to snap them blind over a wall …



WRW 906S was last taxed in 2000 …

Edited by uk66fastback on Tuesday 24th May 00:41
Oooft, now I would like to have a rear engined Simca some day. Good to see these presumably dry and relatively safe from deterioration.

Ronaro

200 posts

73 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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acme said:
Ronaro said:

Is the second picture in Bishops Stortford?
Yes - taken a couple of years ago I believe!

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ronaro said:
Yes - taken a couple of years ago I believe!
Cheers. I’ve been going past that MK1 Astra/Kadett for about a decade!

Given your reply did you get the picture off Facebook?

Cheers.


Ronaro

200 posts

73 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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No It’s my pic from 2020 I think!

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ronaro said:
Chrome grill trim, fancy alloys shared with the Manta / Monza /Senator, headlight washers..... I think that's a rare UK market Open Kadett