Anyone Bought A £5k Rolls Royce?...

[vpr]

Reciprocating mass said:

POORCARDEALER said:

vpr said:

My 19 yr old nipper bought this about 6 months ago for 5k

100k miles and a bit bubbly in places. drives really well

Lovely looking thing for £5K

I see it’s now off to auction advertised on e bay with a guide price of 12 grand

It’s what I said back there. It had absolutely zero service history and not miraculously it has a full history.

[CraigJMusker]

vpr said:

No I don’t know why but what I can tell you is that my nipper bought it of a local guy that had had it years and when he bought it he said the guy had lost all the service history and now I notice that miraculously it has a full service history.

I have to say that’s the same scenario happened to me with a Shadow 2 which was bought off me by a well know specialist which suddenly aquired a FSH

Thanks for replying, appreciate this was a really old thread! Yes that does seem suspect, and the pictures make it look extremely clean and tidy - yet i saw you mentioned it was bubbling with rust back a few years ago. What did you and your son think of it during your ownership? Did it seem a well cared for example?

[anonymous-user]

There may (I say may) be a case for referring to the relevant Trading Standards officer an advert for a car that claims it to have a full service history when it previously lacked such a history. It is of course possible (but perhaps not likely) that a genuine history for a car could be reconstructed by contacting various garages that have worked on the car, but the chances of doing this for a car that is several decades old are not great, not least because some of the garages in question may no longer be trading and their records may be lost.

Is it likely that a car dealer selling a 12K ish RR would take the time and effort to do the genuine reconstruction for a car that is not a million quid investment rarity? We also know that even in the world of pre-War exotica worth megabucks, shenanigans and Parker Pen capers are not unknown. NB: the dealer selling this car may of course be innocent of all chicanery - he or she may have bought the car from another dealer since the PH'er's son had the car. If the current seller is honest (and many car dealers are honest), he or she might welcome being told that the claimed service history is surprising.

[vpr]

You’re quite right it is doable but highly unlikely on an old car.

Plus the guy we bought it off had had it a fair time and hadn’t had much done in that time.

My nipper spent a couple of grand on the hydraulics.

The car was basically sound with usual suspect areas. It had the legs to come good but his view was that to make really good money it’ll need original service book all stamped up.

[lukeharding]

Breadvan72 said:

There may (I say may) be a case for referring to the relevant Trading Standards officer an advert for a car that claims it to have a full service history when it previously lacked such a history. It is of course possible (but perhaps not likely) that a genuine history for a car could be reconstructed by contacting various garages that have worked on the car, but the chances of doing this for a car that is several decades old are not great, not least because some of the garages in question may no longer be trading and their records may be lost.

Is it likely that a car dealer selling a 12K ish RR would take the time and effort to do the genuine reconstruction for a car that is not a million quid investment rarity? We also know that even in the world of pre-War exotica worth megabucks, shenanigans and Parker Pen capers are not unknown. NB: the dealer selling this car may of course be innocent of all chicanery - he or she may have bought the car from another dealer since the PH'er's son had the car. If the current seller is honest (and many car dealers are honest), he or she might welcome being told that the claimed service history is surprising.

Surely worth contacting the auction as they would amend the description and speak to the owner - they'd probably prefer the option to avoid the hassle of the buyer potentially finding out that the history is false.

[anonymous-user]

What a fantastic thread. Always wanted a Turbo R of mid 80s vintage but never had the space for one.

[cayman-black]

aeropilot said:

lukeharding said:

aeropilot said:

vpr said:

I have to say that’s the same scenario happened to me with a Shadow 2 which was bought off me by a well know specialist which suddenly aquired a FSH

Hmmnnnnn......I used to live near to a well known RR 'specialist' that acquired a reputation for doing that......

Not in Essex?

Correct, not in Essex.
Further west.

The one in Essex is the one we know.

[lowdrag]

Not sub-£5K, but if you are into Rolls and Bentleys this auction may interest you:-

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/af20

[anonymous-user]

Some of the cars there add new meaning to the expression "more money than sense".

[atomicpunk]

Breadvan72 said:

There may (I say may) be a case for referring to the relevant Trading Standards officer an advert for a car that claims it to have a full service history when it previously lacked such a history. It is of course possible (but perhaps not likely) that a genuine history for a car could be reconstructed by contacting various garages that have worked on the car, but the chances of doing this for a car that is several decades old are not great, not least because some of the garages in question may no longer be trading and their records may be lost.

Is it likely that a car dealer selling a 12K ish RR would take the time and effort to do the genuine reconstruction for a car that is not a million quid investment rarity? We also know that even in the world of pre-War exotica worth megabucks, shenanigans and Parker Pen capers are not unknown. NB: the dealer selling this car may of course be innocent of all chicanery - he or she may have bought the car from another dealer since the PH'er's son had the car. If the current seller is honest (and many car dealers are honest), he or she might welcome being told that the claimed service history is surprising.

I see the auction listing now states that the service book has been misplaced...

[vpr]

Wow that’s interesting

[anonymous-user]

I find that auction page a bit user unfriendly and CBA to wade through pages of expensive tat to see the RR in question or any other interesting cars, and I assume anyway that the cars are all mad expensive.

Is the ad implying that there was a full history but that it has been lost? Surely best to say "car does not have a full history" and in effect invite bids on condition, not paper records.

[lukeharding]

Breadvan72 said:

I find that auction page a bit user unfriendly and CBA to wade through pages of expensive tat to see the RR in question or any other interesting cars, and I assume anyway that the cars are all mad expensive.

Is the ad implying that there was a full history but that it has been lost? Surely best to say "car does not have a full history" and in effect invite bids on condition, not paper records.

Its an easy way to ward off questions about them changing the listing that was previously described as having very good history, at a guess (Assuming they now know the truth)

[Satsuma]

this could go for sub £5K

https://auctions.eddisons.com/auctions/7517/eddiso...

[lukeharding]

Satsuma said:

this could go for sub £5K

https://auctions.eddisons.com/auctions/7517/eddiso...

That doesn't look too terrible...not that I need more cars

[anonymous-user]

I am soooooooooo glad that I have recently bought one completely surplus to needs motorbike and one completely surplus to needs car, and thus am skinteroo (and about to be more so, no doubt), as otherwise I could get into serious trouble with that RR. I bet it is (a) lovely, and (b) a disaster zone waiting to get going. Both are fun, of course, but the wrong sort of fun for me just now. Damn!

[CraigJMusker]

vpr said:

Wow that’s interesting

A simple google search of the reg number brings you to this PH thread so they may even have seen our comments this past few days and changed the description based on that. I’d be tempted to bid just for the experience of owning what could be a very cheap RR to smoke about in for a while and for youtube content, but im not brave enough! I love the colour combination and it does appear look in good condition, along with the lical history it has, living near cardiff myself.

[vpr]

CraigJMusker said:

A simple google search of the reg number brings you to this PH thread so they may even have seen our comments this past few days and changed the description based on that. I’d be tempted to bid just for the experience of owning what could be a very cheap RR to smoke about in for a while and for youtube content, but im not brave enough! I love the colour combination and it does appear look in good condition, along with the lical history it has, living near cardiff myself.

I wonder if the insurance claim was an engine fire as it looks sharp under the bonnet

[Huntsman]

ash73 said:

p.s. ...had a browse of their web site and found one even better!

http://www.vandp.net/sales/1420/1965-rolls-royce-s...











What a fabulous car. And only £325k over budget.

I called about that car and they said some bloke called Breadvan had bought it.

The earlier Could 1 cars with the straight six are more refined.

[atomicpunk]

CraigJMusker said:

A simple google search of the reg number brings you to this PH thread so they may even have seen our comments this past few days and changed the description based on that. I’d be tempted to bid just for the experience of owning what could be a very cheap RR to smoke about in for a while and for youtube content, but im not brave enough! I love the colour combination and it does appear look in good condition, along with the lical history it has, living near cardiff myself.

Looks like it sold for a smidge under £16K. A nice looking car from the photos, but good money for one without much history.