Can you identify this old car?

[Perseverant]

I thought Trojan at first because of the look of the wheels, but I think they are discs to cover wire wheels - the wheeltrim extras of their day. It's a bigger car than a Trojan in any case and it looks to perhaps have a dickey seat at the back and quite a complex windscreen. For what it's worth, my guess is that it's a Swift or perhaps a small Humber.

[RobMk2a]

There is a winner further up the page. BB

[dandarez]

eccles said:

Dogwatch said:

davepen said:

I guess in answer to the question, what colour? Anyone you want, although it might appear the wheels are two different colours.
There was a theory that RED appears very black in B&W photo's of the day.

My random guess, "Belsize Bradshaw", but there were many, many, light car makes before the A7 and later the Morris Minor dominated the market..

Surely you mean the Morris 8?

Back on topic, it looks as though the rear wheel is solid disc and the front is spoked. Car was probably several years old by then anyway so not a surprise.

The Morris Minor came before the Morris 8 (1929-34) and was like a civilised Austin 7. It was Britain's first £100 car.

Here's a bit of useless info. The mention of 'Belsize' made my memory ping!

Ginetta Cars Ltd's West End Works in Witham Essex used to be called West End Garage in the early 20s.
Between 1921 and 1925 it was owned by Chas (Charles) Warren.

Warren was an agent for and sold 'Belsize' cars, GN cars, Morris cars, and Essex cars.
A bit more useless info, Essex were a US brand not British, despite the name! They built race cars too, which raced in Salt Lake. Essex were later produced by the Hudson Motor Co, Detroit).

Warren's West End Garage was also a general and repair engineers and in 1925 became an agent for Bean Cars (you can see the Bean sign hanging, and Belsize at the top of the window above the two guys in the middle of the pic.

As for the car identification, no idea. Sorry.

[dandarez]

RobMk2a said:

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So it is a Belsize?

[davepen]

dandarez said:

So it is a Belsize?

It could be, BSA (1922 10hp) would be my second option.

[RobMk2a]

BSA and they say cars all look the same today!

[davepen]

RobMk2a said:

BSA and they say cars all look the same today!

There are some nice images on the GettyImage site and mpl site of Bill Burnel pictures of a BSA, the spare wheel position on the door rather than scuttle, and battery box look a better fit than the prettier Belsize Bradshaw. The Burnel images also has a better running board fit than the more current picture.

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/news-old-photos-of-...
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/674694478
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/674694484

[Engineer1949]

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[williamp]

RobMk2a said:

There is a winner further up the page. BB

Thats a huge radiator mascot. Solid stone??

[Riley Blue]

williamp said:

RobMk2a said:

There is a winner further up the page. BB

Thats a huge radiator mascot. Solid stone??

I was thinking the same, an anti-theft version presumably.

[trojanutilitycar]

Hello,
Your mystery car is a V-twin BSA from around 1924. Model TB2 10hp.

Hope this helps

Best Wishes

Frazer