JD Classics, what have they been up to?

JD Classics, what have they been up to?

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MarkwG

4,859 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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singlecoil said:
MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
It's almost as if the government is trying to persuade people to find alternatives to driving all over the country on business.
Indeed...if only there were some...
There are.
Not where I live & work

singlecoil

33,710 posts

247 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
It's almost as if the government is trying to persuade people to find alternatives to driving all over the country on business.
Indeed...if only there were some...
There are.
Not where I live & work
But there are for many other people.

MarkwG

4,859 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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singlecoil said:
MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
It's almost as if the government is trying to persuade people to find alternatives to driving all over the country on business.
Indeed...if only there were some...
There are.
Not where I live & work
But there are for many other people.
And that's great for them - but penalises those with no choice in the matter. I'd have more sympathy if our elected decision makers were also paying, but inevitably they find a way around it somehow.

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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singlecoil said:
MarkwG said:
singlecoil said:
It's almost as if the government is trying to persuade people to find alternatives to driving all over the country on business.
Indeed...if only there were some...
There are.
Trains: expensive, packed, rarely go where you want, therefore costing much more time as you use multiple lines. Chances are you'll need a cab/walk at either end
Buses: as above but cheaper & slower
Aircraft: at least it's fast, whilst airborne. But the wait either end. And if you're miles from an airport you're stuck with the issues above in addition

Personally, none of the above allow me to carry the equipment I need for work. There's no alternative. Cars are a necessity, so lets fix it

wag2

169 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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There must be an alternative to commuting. Working from home with modern communications or working from an office near home where other people do not work for the same company. Government seems to be doing nothing to promote this.

Doofus

25,848 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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wag2 said:
There must be an alternative to commuting. Working from home with modern communications or working from an office near home where other people do not work for the same company. Government seems to be doing nothing to promote this.
That's because they think HS2 is a sensible thing to invest in, rather than ultra high speed boradband across the whole country.


aeropilot

34,682 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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wag2 said:
There must be an alternative to commuting. Working from home with modern communications or working from an office near home where other people do not work for the same company. Government seems to be doing nothing to promote this.
It can only be promoted in jobs where its actually practical, and a huge number simply aren't.

lowdrag

12,902 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Can we please get this thread back on track please? If you have nothing to contribute to the illbeing (sic) of JD Classics then start a new thread.

aeropilot

34,682 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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lowdrag said:
Can we please get this thread back on track please? If you have nothing to contribute to the illbeing (sic) of JD Classics then start a new thread.
Well.....given DH is supposedly keeping his head down in a country famed for its efficient public transport system, its not gone too far off thread laugh


V8RX7

26,909 posts

264 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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singlecoil said:
But there are for many other people.
Unless you live and work in a City there generally aren't.

A few years ago they promoted a website so you could easily see how you could get from A-B with timings - it generally meant that a 40 min car journey took 4 hours, cost a fortune and involved taxis or a lot of walking !

singlecoil

33,710 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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V8RX7 said:
singlecoil said:
But there are for many other people.
Unless you live and work in a City there generally aren't.

A few years ago they promoted a website so you could easily see how you could get from A-B with timings - it generally meant that a 40 min car journey took 4 hours, cost a fortune and involved taxis or a lot of walking !
I wasn't talking about alternative ways of getting from A to B, I was talking about not making the journey at all. While in many cases such as service engineers the journey is necessary, in many others (frequently sales related) it isn't.

grumpy52

5,598 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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singlecoil said:
V8RX7 said:
singlecoil said:
But there are for many other people.
Unless you live and work in a City there generally aren't.

A few years ago they promoted a website so you could easily see how you could get from A-B with timings - it generally meant that a 40 min car journey took 4 hours, cost a fortune and involved taxis or a lot of walking !
I wasn't talking about alternative ways of getting from A to B, I was talking about not making the journey at all. While in many cases such as service engineers the journey is necessary, in many others (frequently sales related) it isn't.
If you want to experience shambolic public transport come and live in SE Kent .
No buses before 7am and in many areas none after 6pm .
Many local Surgeries have no bus service within 1/2 a mile , local leisure center is not on a bus route, no buses on a Sunday.
Fancy a trip to a London show (only 70 odd miles away) that will mean an overnight stay as the last train leaves before the show has finished.
Need to get to a hospital for an appointment good luck with that ! It will usually involve 3 buses , or two buses and a train .
Also good luck trying to get on a bus at school in and out times and often in the afternoon a break in service appears after the school runs .
If you are lucky enough to be near a main station the new high speed trains are very quick , but expensive if you buy tickets at the wrong time .

DonkeyApple

55,435 posts

170 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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grumpy52 said:
If you want to experience shambolic public transport come and live in SE Kent .
No buses before 7am and in many areas none after 6pm .
Many local Surgeries have no bus service within 1/2 a mile , local leisure center is not on a bus route, no buses on a Sunday.
Fancy a trip to a London show (only 70 odd miles away) that will mean an overnight stay as the last train leaves before the show has finished.
Need to get to a hospital for an appointment good luck with that ! It will usually involve 3 buses , or two buses and a train .
Also good luck trying to get on a bus at school in and out times and often in the afternoon a break in service appears after the school runs .
If you are lucky enough to be near a main station the new high speed trains are very quick , but expensive if you buy tickets at the wrong time .
SE Kent has always been like that though. It’s not like it was a preferred London dormitory that has radically changed.

No one has ever gone to live there because of its excellent commute to London so there’s little logic in complaining that it is not one of the favoured commuter zones.

The Tabard Inn in Southwark to Canterbury was a four day journey so times have still improved dramatically. wink


singlecoil

33,710 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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grumpy52 said:
singlecoil said:
V8RX7 said:
singlecoil said:
But there are for many other people.
Unless you live and work in a City there generally aren't.

A few years ago they promoted a website so you could easily see how you could get from A-B with timings - it generally meant that a 40 min car journey took 4 hours, cost a fortune and involved taxis or a lot of walking !
I wasn't talking about alternative ways of getting from A to B, I was talking about not making the journey at all. While in many cases such as service engineers the journey is necessary, in many others (frequently sales related) it isn't.
If you want to experience shambolic public transport come and live in SE Kent .
No buses before 7am and in many areas none after 6pm .
Many local Surgeries have no bus service within 1/2 a mile , local leisure center is not on a bus route, no buses on a Sunday.
Fancy a trip to a London show (only 70 odd miles away) that will mean an overnight stay as the last train leaves before the show has finished.
Need to get to a hospital for an appointment good luck with that ! It will usually involve 3 buses , or two buses and a train .
Also good luck trying to get on a bus at school in and out times and often in the afternoon a break in service appears after the school runs .
If you are lucky enough to be near a main station the new high speed trains are very quick , but expensive if you buy tickets at the wrong time .
I have no interest in public transport in your area or anywhere else. It's very clear you have completely missed my point.

V8RX7

26,909 posts

264 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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singlecoil said:
I have no interest in public transport in your area or anywhere else. It's very clear you have completely missed my point.
I understand your point - but the reason that sales reps travel is because personal relationships frequently count more than the product / price. It's almost like companies have realised this when developing the role.

I tend to buy products off the internet but when there is an issue or I need a favour, I'm very aware that I'm on my own.

However we are all drifting somewhat OT

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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singlecoil said:
singlecoil said:
I wasn't talking about alternative ways of getting from A to B, I was talking about not making the journey at all. While in many cases such as service engineers the journey is necessary, in many others (frequently sales related) it isn't.
I have no interest in public transport in your area or anywhere else. It's very clear you have completely missed my point.
You might feel that sales calls aren't essential and in many cases I'd agree with you, but human interaction is often important and very often choices made are influenced by things like emotions. There is every possibility that if big customer A has two possible suppliers and one visits them regularly while the other only phones then the business is going to go to the guy who visits. The visits may not be essential, but they still have a direct impact on whether your company gets any business or not.

I've worked from home for years. I can't remember how many years it is since I visited a customers site. There is another side if things which I don't think has really been explored properly yet. Trying to remain sane when you don't have the sort of human interaction you get when you regularly get together with other people takes effort. These days I walk more in a year than I drive in my car.

PS. parallel post with V8RX7

Edited by a8hex on Sunday 23 June 15:26

singlecoil

33,710 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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I'll enlarge a bit on my point and then say no more on the subject (hopefully).

Of course there are reasons why the motorways are populated by so many salesmen. Their journeys are necessary from their point of view and from that of their employers. But in many cases they aren't necessary as far as the rest of us are concerned, they're not producing anything but they are consuming.

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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singlecoil said:
I'll enlarge a bit on my point and then say no more on the subject (hopefully).

Of course there are reasons why the motorways are populated by so many salesmen. Their journeys are necessary from their point of view and from that of their employers. But in many cases they aren't necessary as far as the rest of us are concerned, they're not producing anything but they are consuming.
That's true of nearly all of us, the world would go on happily if none of us went to work. Unless you banned all sales calls you can't expect companies to want to stop.

singlecoil

33,710 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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a8hex said:
singlecoil said:
I'll enlarge a bit on my point and then say no more on the subject (hopefully).

Of course there are reasons why the motorways are populated by so many salesmen. Their journeys are necessary from their point of view and from that of their employers. But in many cases they aren't necessary as far as the rest of us are concerned, they're not producing anything but they are consuming.
That's true of nearly all of us, the world would go on happily if none of us went to work. Unless you banned all sales calls you can't expect companies to want to stop.
I could reply but I'm no going to, apart from the topic drift it's getting boring.

4rephill

5,041 posts

179 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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