40+ year old cars exempt from MOT?

[markymarkthree]

V6Pushfit said:

warch said:

No because it is exempt from testing as of the start of next week.

Even without an mot at changeover?

Just get a MOT, it may only cost you £25.
Unless of course there are other reasons why you don't want your car to be inspected.

[TooMany2cvs]

V6Pushfit said:

Even without an mot at changeover?

Yes. There's zero requirement over MOT history as part of VHI.

[anonymous-user]

markymarkthree said:

Just get a MOT, it may only cost you £25.
Unless of course there are other reasons why you don't want your car to be inspected.

It’s nothing like that it’s just the faff of losing half a day getting it done

[warch]

You need a form V112 which basically states that your vehicle is exempt from MoT testing, which you can produce at the Post Office in order to get a new tax disc. It's that simple.

[lowdrag]

Except the new V112 is not yet available, neither in the Post Office or on line. They will be on line shortly, but I am advised that Post Offices may not have stock straight away so you are advised to download and take to the Post Office to retax. So since I am in the same boat from the 1st June I am just relaxing and awaiting that all appears on line.

[spitfire-ian]

TooMany2cvs said:

Yes. There's zero requirement over MOT history as part of VHI.

That's good to know.

I have been wondering it myself lately as my 1971 car's MOT ran out last August and due to several reasons, non of them related to the car (apart from maybe the fact I drive it less over the winter anyway), I haven't got around to MOT'ing it since.

It does have current road tax so come the weekend I can take it out and use it

[mgtony]

When the V112 appears on-line am I right in thinking that you won't actually be able to fill it out on-line? ie you can print it off but it's only of use if you take a copy to the post office to renew tax so can't use it to tax on-line.
When you come to tax on-line, You'll just tick the box that states mot exempt and no need for a V112???

[lowdrag]

An interesting question to which I really don't know the answer. Supposedly one must fill the form in and take it to the Post Office and from then on the car is MOT exempt, even though the current MOT may have expired. There are rumours that you will be able to do it on line, but frankly we won't know until the DVLA put the new system on line. The V112 is not on line yet, and re and more I think they only will be changing the system as from the 20th. So we just have to wait and see.

[spitfire-ian]

lowdrag said:

An interesting question to which I really don't know the answer. Supposedly one must fill the form in and take it to the Post Office and from then on the car is MOT exempt, even though the current MOT may have expired. There are rumours that you will be able to do it on line, but frankly we won't know until the DVLA put the new system on line. The V112 is not on line yet, and re and more I think they only will be changing the system as from the 20th. So we just have to wait and see.

From how I understand it the form is just to replace having to show your MOT certificate when you tax the car, not to make your car MOT exempt as that is automatically done if it has historic status or whatever.

[lowdrag]

Well, the V112, once presented or filled in on line (if we can) needs only to be presented the once and then you are forever more exempt and will be able to tax your car on line. However, the devil is in the detail; for example, a substantially modified car such as a Suffolk SS100 needs you to declare that the car was converted from the wreck of a Mk VII more than 30 years previously for it to be classed as MOT exempt. so the authorities, if they want, can I suppose insist on proof in the event of an accident or whatever. Yes, the system is based on self-certification but declaring the car is over 30 years old in its current form when it isn't is breaking the law. This is just me surmising, but to me the act of making the declaration must have a founding in law. Anyway, we'll all know in a couple of days time.

[mgtony]

The V112 has been updated.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

As Ian says, if you tax at the post office you'll just fill one in instead of showing an MOT cert. I don't think it's a one-off declaration.

[laters]

I've just downloaded the updated v112 & am gathering all the needed paperwork ready to goto the post office on Monday morning.

Hopefully it will go smoother than last visit when I changed the car to being exempt from paying vehicle tax.

[anonymous-user]

spitfire-ian said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Yes. There's zero requirement over MOT history as part of VHI.

That's good to know.

I have been wondering it myself lately as my 1971 car's MOT ran out last August and due to several reasons, non of them related to the car (apart from maybe the fact I drive it less over the winter anyway), I haven't got around to MOT'ing it since.

It does have current road tax so come the weekend I can take it out and use it

There seems to be a loophole here if a current MOT isnt needed at the time of VHI:

If there is no requirement for an MOT at the time of filling in the VT111 then over the next year there will be a continual increase in cars that arent MOT'd and yet haven't reached the point of needing to be retaxed

So a lot of cars will be running around with MOT's that have run out, in anticipation only of their being MOT exempt at the time of retaxing. How to the DVLA/Police deal with that??

So

Either its a bit of a cock up or alternatively a current MOT is required at the time of submitting the VT111

[lowdrag]

The clock at the DVLA ticks over on the 40th anniversary of the date of first registration, so from then road tax is free. All I can think of is to cancel the existing road tax on line, then go to your local post office with the V112 and retax your car. Cumbersome, but legal.

[mr rusty]

My 72 midget currently on sorn taxed this morning without MOT. Just ticked the box "not substantially modified". Job jobbied. No 112 needed.

[mr rusty]

..........and it didn't have a current MOT - ran out last March.

[lowdrag]

Ditto. Here is the actual wording on the tax renewal site:-

"MOT/GVT test certificate exemption declaration
40 year MOT exemption

Our records indicate the vehicle was constructed more than 40 years ago and therefore maybe MOT exempt if it has not been substantially altered in the last 30 years"

So, the V112 isn't needed.

Edited by lowdrag on Sunday 20th May 08:58

[warch]

Too right, my Land Rover is now taxed and road legal, although it actually won't be going anywhere until I fit a new bulkhead outrigger and a few bulbs that have blown.

[CAPP0]

So that's my 58 year old bike taxed and legal, which means that I can now ride it on the road in order to bed in the currently-inefficient new front brake lining

[lowdrag]

Well, what a stupid idiotic mess this has been! From the first consultation paper, when it looked as if any car that had been substantially modified could end up on a "Q" plate (and much merriment when the managing director of a very large and well know classic specialist remarked that "perhaps we could persuade our clients that the "Q" stands for "Quality") through the possibility that any modified car such as an Austin 7 special et al could suffer the same fate, then the latest consultation over any new special or kit car would need to meet stringent emission controls so would need modern engines on through the watering-down to where all we have to do is tick a ruddy box. Loads of midnight oil burned, all for nothing. We must give heartfelt thanks to the FBHVC for their substantial intervention on our behalves which, speaking as one voice on behalf of all types and makes, has resulted in this most satisfactory conclusion. Three cheers!