40+ year old cars exempt from MOT?

[lowdrag]

Pre 1960 has now been superceded by the 40 year rule, so no longer has any meaning.

[anonymous-user]

lowdrag said:

Pre 1960 has now been superceded by the 40 year rule, so no longer has any meaning.

When will this ‘MOT Expired’ status be replaced by exempt on searches? I have a 1941 vehicle that says exempt whereas 1970 just shows up as expired. Yes there’s a link to the blank VT112 but it doesn’t really cut it when it’s from a red warning that the MOT has run out and there’s a potential fine.

[GoodOlBoy]

gothatway said:

Has anyone any experience of putting a pre-1960 car through this process ? I've been assuming that no issues will arise and I can just apply for "road tax" as in previous years.

My pre-1960 car went through as per previous years. I wasn't asked about modifications.

Seems there is still a difference between pre-1960 and the forty year rule. At least on the DVLA website as it currently presents.

[mph]

GoodOlBoy said:

My pre-1960 car went through as per previous years. I wasn't asked about modifications.

Seems there is still a difference between pre-1960 and the forty year rule. At least on the DVLA website as it currently presents.

Same with me. I was expecting to be asked about modifications, but it didn't happen.

[gothatway]

mph said:

GoodOlBoy said:

My pre-1960 car went through as per previous years. I wasn't asked about modifications.

Seems there is still a difference between pre-1960 and the forty year rule. At least on the DVLA website as it currently presents.

Same with me. I was expecting to be asked about modifications, but it didn't happen.

That's good, thanks.

[Welshbeef]

How would heh know what the original specification of every single model ever made should be?

[gothatway]

Welshbeef said:

How would heh know what the original specification of every single model ever made should be?

Why would anyone need to know that ?

[GoodOlBoy]

Can anyone enlighten me as to under which circumstances the DVLA are asking about modifications, prior to allowing you to tax your historic vehicle ?

I taxed a pre 1960 car online recently and it went through as per previous years.

A friend has just taxed his 1970's car which is heavily modified, again no questions.

[mph]

I had the same experience.

I recently taxed my MOT exempt classic online, I was expecting to sign a disclaimer regarding modifications, but no such screen appeared.

[TooMany2cvs]

mph said:

I had the same experience.

I recently taxed my MOT exempt classic online, I was expecting to sign a disclaimer regarding modifications, but no such screen appeared.

Just because you could tax it without needing an MOT doesn't mean you can't be prosecuted for not having one, if you need one.

[mph]

TooMany2cvs said:

mph said:

I had the same experience.

I recently taxed my MOT exempt classic online, I was expecting to sign a disclaimer regarding modifications, but no such screen appeared.

Just because you could tax it without needing an MOT doesn't mean you can't be prosecuted for not having one, if you need one.

Pedant alert, but I'll go with it

If the DVLA aren't asking or even advising about modifications how is anyone supposed to know the requirements ?

Most of us go online, bang in our tax reminder reference number and that's it. It would seem reasonable to advise us at this point.

The only reason I know anything about modifications is because I've read about it on a forum. Everything I've read led me to understand that we would be verifying modifications as part of the MOT exemption process. Clearly that's not correct. At least in my experience.

Has anyone been asked to verify anything so far ?

[aeropilot]

mph said:

TooMany2cvs said:

mph said:

I had the same experience.

I recently taxed my MOT exempt classic online, I was expecting to sign a disclaimer regarding modifications, but no such screen appeared.

Just because you could tax it without needing an MOT doesn't mean you can't be prosecuted for not having one, if you need one.

Pedant alert, but I'll go with it

If the DVLA aren't asking or even advising about modifications how is anyone supposed to know the requirements ?

Most of us go online, bang in our tax reminder reference number and that's it. It would seem reasonable to advise us at this point.

The only reason I know anything about modifications is because I've read about it on a forum.

Exactly.

I know of at least 3 people with modified classics (one very modded) that are effectively IT illiterate, not owning a laptop or anything that would give them online access.

[Elderly]

mph said:

Has anyone been asked to verify anything so far ?

Not me - see my post of the 18th July in this thread.

[TooMany2cvs]

aeropilot said:

Exactly.

I know of at least 3 people with modified classics (one very modded) that are effectively IT illiterate, not owning a laptop or anything that would give them online access.

And none of them are members of any clubs, or read any magazines?

[aeropilot]

TooMany2cvs said:

aeropilot said:

Exactly.

I know of at least 3 people with modified classics (one very modded) that are effectively IT illiterate, not owning a laptop or anything that would give them online access.

And none of them are members of any clubs, or read any magazines?

Nope.

One even works in the trade, and when I saw him a few months back, and mentioned all this, he looked aghast, and shrugged his shoulders, saying, he'll wait until DVLA send him a letter, otherwise he'll just carry on.

[TooMany2cvs]

aeropilot said:

TooMany2cvs said:

aeropilot said:

Exactly.

I know of at least 3 people with modified classics (one very modded) that are effectively IT illiterate, not owning a laptop or anything that would give them online access.

And none of them are members of any clubs, or read any magazines?

Nope.

One even works in the trade, and when I saw him a few months back, and mentioned all this, he looked aghast, and shrugged his shoulders, saying, he'll wait until DVLA send him a letter, otherwise he'll just carry on.

So how do they even know about the exemption...?

[aeropilot]

TooMany2cvs said:

aeropilot said:

TooMany2cvs said:

aeropilot said:

Exactly.

I know of at least 3 people with modified classics (one very modded) that are effectively IT illiterate, not owning a laptop or anything that would give them online access.

And none of them are members of any clubs, or read any magazines?

Nope.

One even works in the trade, and when I saw him a few months back, and mentioned all this, he looked aghast, and shrugged his shoulders, saying, he'll wait until DVLA send him a letter, otherwise he'll just carry on.

So how do they even know about the exemption...?

They didn't until recently....!

[anonymous-user]

So, we have to self certify no mods. If the MOT runs out before the tax or the car is back on the road after work/laying up we have to make assumptions it doesn’t need an MOT before taxing.
Given an owners obvious angle on this the it may not be correct.
In addition even when all the cars are done this way they will still show up as MOT run out on the websites. Thus putting off buyers and making the car look like it’s being driven illegally.

[lowdrag]

No, it's just showing that the DVSA are behind the times and haven't altered their website.

[TooMany2cvs]

V6 Pushfit said:

So, we have to self certify no mods. If the MOT runs out before the tax or the car is back on the road after work/laying up we have to make assumptions it doesn’t need an MOT before taxing.
Given an owners obvious angle on this the it may not be correct.

The owner is the only one who knows for sure.
In the event of an issue, the police may also investigate.

V6 Pushfit said:

In addition even when all the cars are done this way they will still show up as MOT run out on the websites.

<shrug> But it's correct. The MOT has expired. That may or may not be an issue.

V6 Pushfit said:

Thus putting off buyers and making the car look like it’s being driven illegally.

Why? It's exempt. Isn't it?