Classic Car Facts, Stats & Trivia

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T1CHS

148 posts

177 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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droopsnoot said:
My Vauxhall Firenza uses the same thermostat as my Audi TT.
You cheap skate... buy them both one.

droopsnoot

11,949 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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T1CHS said:
droopsnoot said:
My Vauxhall Firenza uses the same thermostat as my Audi TT.
You cheap skate... buy them both one.
smile

Biggest difference is how much easier it is to swap on the Firenza.

T1CHS

148 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Glad to hear your still running the HPF. I guess you've still got the odd droopsnoot tucked away as well.

droopsnoot

11,949 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Yes, still got the pair.

T1CHS

148 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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smile

irocfan

40,485 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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droopsnoot said:
Yes, still got the pair.
I really don't understand this - if these were RS2000s they'd be worth a pretty penny ("classic Ford tax") yet as they're 'only' a droopsnoot they're (relatively speaking) worth bugger-all (I'd much rather have the Vaux in all honesty)

droopsnoot

11,949 posts

242 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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irocfan said:
I really don't understand this - if these were RS2000s they'd be worth a pretty penny ("classic Ford tax") yet as they're 'only' a droopsnoot they're (relatively speaking) worth bugger-all (I'd much rather have the Vaux in all honesty)
I suspect some of it is rarity - in that they are perhaps too rare to have much demand. If they'd been able to fulfil the plan of a thousand a year (or even a thousand at all) then there would have been enough out there to get more of a following and more might have survived, and in turn there might be more people who had them back in the day that would want to have one again and help drive up the price. The extra production would have given them a chance to iron out the build quality issues, too.

Mr Tidy

22,366 posts

127 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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droopsnoot said:
I suspect some of it is rarity - in that they are perhaps too rare to have much demand. If they'd been able to fulfil the plan of a thousand a year (or even a thousand at all) then there would have been enough out there to get more of a following and more might have survived, and in turn there might be more people who had them back in the day that would want to have one again and help drive up the price. The extra production would have given them a chance to iron out the build quality issues, too.
You may be right about rarity - I bought a 1978 RS2000 in 1983 and would have preferred a Droopsnoot, HS Chevette (or even Avenger Tiger) but there weren't any of those around even then! frown

Mind you there seem to be more Escort Mexicos and RS models around now than there were in the 80s! laugh

And FWIW the build quality of my RS2000 was nothing special then, so I don't think that was much of an issue.

It's great to see an enthusiast keeping two of these going. thumbup

droopsnoot

11,949 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Cheers, I've no plans to get rid of them. I spent nine years rebuilding the Sportshatch from a sorry state, and the Firenza sat in a lock-up for about the same time while I gathered parts and so on.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
Mind you there seem to be more Escort Mexicos and RS models around now than there were in the 80s! laugh

And FWIW the build quality of my RS2000 was nothing special then, so I don't think that was much of an issue.
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I had a P-reg(1976) MK 2 1600 Sport in the early 80s, the top of the suspension struts had to have a plate both sides(4 year old car) and both doors were going rotten at the bottom, next step up was to buy a RS2000 but bottled it due to not wanting another HP debt after just paying off another, hardly ever saw a Escort Mexico, perhaps with the internet and car shows we see a lot more than we did back then.

droopsnoot

11,949 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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I spoke to the chap who owned my Firenza when it was about three or four years old, and he mentioned that the inner wings had already started going at that point. I doubt either are better or worse than most mass-produced cars of the era for rust. My comment about build quality was more about panel alignment, gearbox noise and a handful of other things that plagued the production cars.

Edited by droopsnoot on Thursday 9th August 19:18

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Halmyre said:
irocfan said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Not exactly a classic...

....but if you Google what Pajero means in Spanish you'll understand why it was renamed Montero or Shogun in certain markets. How did they get that so wrong? hehe
Chevy couldn't sell the Nova in Spanish speaking countries.
At one point Buick wouldn't sell the LaCrosse in Quebec
Mazda's Laputa is Spanish for prostitute if the syllables are separated.
Honda reportedly ditched the name Fitta for its latest subcompact — going with Fit instead — because in Scandinavian countries it's a rude word for a woman's private area.
Pinto, is Spanish for a small spotted pony but also Brazilian Portuguese slang for penis.
Rolls-Royce abandoned Silver Mist as a possible name when they found out 'mist' is German for 'dung' or 'rubbish'.
Did I read somewhere that the Colt Starion was really meant to be called the Colt Stallion but the Eastern people pronounced their "Ls" as "Rs" when they told the UK distributor the new name over the phone.

vpr

3,711 posts

238 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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_Sorted_ said:
The sound deadening in an old school Aston V8 is made from sheets of lead (normally) in a foam sandwich.

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This amazing but true, absolutely no thoughtor care towards keeping it as light as possible. I still have these in my 88 X

2xChevrons

3,196 posts

80 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Vanin said:
Did I read somewhere that the Colt Starion was really meant to be called the Colt Stallion but the Eastern people pronounced their "Ls" as "Rs" when they told the UK distributor the new name over the phone.
Urban myth. 'Starion' is a portmanteau of 'Star' and 'Arion' - Arion being a supernaturally fast, intelligent horse born of Poseidon and Demeter in Greek mythology. The 'Stallion/Starion' thing probably emerged because Mitsubishi used a lot of horse-based imagery and gave the Starion its own logo (a horse's head. But that's only logical given the origin of the name. It was called the Starion in Japan, which knocks the idea that it was a 'hilarious' mispronounciation to some overseas importer. Translating the Japanese from the domestic adverts show that Mitsubishi made the Arion connection explicit, summarised the mythological horse's qualities and then made it clear why their car was worthy of its name.

Mitsubishi used a mix of equine and astronomical names - at the same time they were making the Orion engine family and of course there was Colt, Lancer, Galloper etc.

Mr Tidy

22,366 posts

127 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Raygun said:
I had a P-reg(1976) MK 2 1600 Sport in the early 80s, the top of the suspension struts had to have a plate both sides(4 year old car) and both doors were going rotten at the bottom, next step up was to buy a RS2000 but bottled it due to not wanting another HP debt after just paying off another, hardly ever saw a Escort Mexico, perhaps with the internet and car shows we see a lot more than we did back then.
Interesting - I bought my 1978 RS2000 in 1982 and it hadn't been plated, but IIRC the RS and Mexico had reinforced turrets (unlike the Sport).

I sold my RS2000 in 1984 - so I could buy a 1982 Capri 2.8 Injection! But now I wish I had kept it. laugh