Extreme Everest with Ant Middleton

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Mr Gearchange

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5,892 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Anyone watch this on Sunday night?
Double hard ex special forces bloke climbs Everest and very nearly doesn't come back down again.

Everyone knows how dangerous climbing that mountain is - but this really brought it into sharp contrast, it seems one of the sherpas who went up with them didn't come back down and is still on the mountainside.

It was shocking just how risky this is - and how it seems that you can pay sherpas to effectively drag you to the top of the worlds highest peak even if you aren't in any way experienced enough to tackle the climb.

Really compelling viewing but it left me in absolutely no doubt just how dangerous it is..

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/extreme-everes...


AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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coyft said:
I really enjoyed it.

His ego of wanting to be the last to leave so that he could say he was the highest human on the planet, almost cost him his life.
Indeed, I'd never heard of him before this show, but he came across as reckless and arrogant. I guess when you're SF though you are by nature a massive risk taker that doesn't really know how to "lose".

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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I watched it as it was fascinating, but have to say I found him quite annoying. Can't really put my finger on why.

Scabutz

7,655 posts

81 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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I like Ant, his book is a good read. Great military career, Paras, Marines, SBS.

Anyway I liked the programme. Everest really interests me, I have neither the time, balls, money or Dr's papers to climb it myself. I used to work with a guy who was a pretty serious climber, he said Everest was a tourist destination, none of the real climbers were bothered by it and it was just rich wkers being dragged up. You could see that. Ant having a go at the guy in blue, he was right. Its those people that cause the issue because the are not fit enough.

Yeah he probably shouldn't have waited at the top, but someone had to be last. And to be fair someone as fit as him probably had a better survival chance than some of the others. Ben Fogle had a programme on recently climbing Everest also. He is not an unfit person by any means but he struggled. Other than a bit of snow blindness and frost nip Ant was in remarkably good shape.

Halmyre

11,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
I watched it as it was fascinating, but have to say I found him quite annoying. Can't really put my finger on why.
AshVX220 said:
Indeed, I'd never heard of him before this show, but he came across as reckless and arrogant. I guess when you're SF though you are by nature a massive risk taker that doesn't really know how to "lose".
Careful chaps, or some of Ant's admirers in here might break down in tears.

Parsnip

3,122 posts

189 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Guy paying (or ch4 paying) to get dragged up a mountain, being disparaging of other guys paying to get dragged up a mountain.

A fair bit of faux drama thrown in and you have a program.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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The guy filming it seemed to be the real star. He took everything in his stride and didn't seem to be suffering. I think he might have done it before.

ETA: His name is Ed Wardle - It was the third time he had summitted Everest.

Edited by cbmotorsport on Tuesday 13th November 15:36

UnclePat

508 posts

88 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
The guy filming it seemed to be the real star.
That always amused me about the ludicrous Bear Grylls shows - he's hanging off a cliff, playing-up the drama & danger, when right alongside him there's someone doing it as well, but with the added difficulty of operating the camera too...

super7

1,939 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Obviously hearing the Sherpa's saying they're going to cut you off the rope at the top, when your hanging upside down without the strenght to right yourself, is a very motivating factor in sorting your st out eek

pidsy

8,010 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Watched it, read ants book too - there’s still something about him that I’m not keen on. It was an interesting show (much better than the Ben fogle programme) but there’s an issue with trying to squeeze an entire Everest attempt into an hours programme.

To the poster above that is interested in Everest - look up some books on the Everest tragedy of 1997 - fascinating story of the most deadly day on the mountain. It was the inspiration for the film a couple of years ago.



Scabutz

7,655 posts

81 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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pidsy said:
Watched it, read ants book too - there’s still something about him that I’m not keen on. It was an interesting show (much better than the Ben fogle programme) but there’s an issue with trying to squeeze an entire Everest attempt into an hours programme.

To the poster above that is interested in Everest - look up some books on the Everest tragedy of 1997 - fascinating story of the most deadly day on the mountain. It was the inspiration for the film a couple of years ago.
I think he's just the wrong side of the line between self confidence and arrogance. I'm reading Foxy's book at the minute. Btw seems more self aware and down to earth.

Yeah look for some of those books. I've seen the film and I read some more stuff about it online.

LordHaveMurci

12,046 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Have always enjoyed Ants TV stuff & his military career is pretty imoressive but I didn't think he came across very well in this.

Enjoyed Fogles program more than this but then Fogle is very personable & easy to watch I guess.

Mr Gearchange

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5,892 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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I’d imagine that those selected for Special Forces are a special kind of cold, emotionless, unempathetic people - it probably helps when they are sent to horrible places to kill horrible people in horrible ways

It probably also makes them less likeable than Ben Fogle on telly programmes.

joema

2,649 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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I like Ant. His sailing adventure was good.

The start of the program was a bit cringe-worthy. And typical about non mountaineers taking on the biggest mountain in the world.

Scary at the end really, he was very close because he fked about a bit but as said if he wasn't last off, maybe another would have died Highlights the problems with the numbers of people perfectly. That you can essentially pay your way up at the expense of others.

It's not the most difficult to climb but the altitude, changing weather and people make it difficult.

I think Into Thin Air is the title that covers the 96 disaster. By Jon Krakeur. climbing books are some of the best reads.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Parsnip said:
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A fair bit of faux drama thrown in and you have a program.
One of the Sherpas died, hardly 'faux drama'.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
The guy filming it seemed to be the real star. He took everything in his stride and didn't seem to be suffering. I think he might have done it before.

ETA: His name is Ed Wardle - It was the third time he had summitted Everest.
Agreed, he was sensible and experienced enough to ensure he was at the front of the line for the Hillary Step when the weather turned.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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LordHaveMurci said:
Have always enjoyed Ants TV stuff & his military career is pretty imoressive but I didn't think he came across very well in this.

Enjoyed Fogles program more than this but then Fogle is very personable & easy to watch I guess.
I enjoyed both for differing reasons. The Ben Fogle film certainly showed more of him and lacked any real detail about his climb and what really happened to Victoria Pendleton, almost as though he was keeping details back for his talking tour and book.

I equally enjoyed the Ant Middleton program because it was more about the climb and just what a terrifying place it is. Both good shows.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Climbing Everest is a bit 'meh' these days. Pay enough money, get reasonably fit, and you too could get to the top.

I thought he came across as a bit of a nob in this show.

No need to have a go at the fellow climber who was less fit (or may have been having a less fit day).

And I noticed that he used the fixed safety line to haul himself up by. That is not proper climbing.

Far more impressed by the Captain Bligh voyage.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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On the subject of climbing books, 'Touching the Void' is a great read, even for a non climber like me. Fantastic true story of overcoming adversity and the power of the human spirit and mind.

I'm sure it's well known, but just in case anyone's not heard of it.

Mothersruin

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100 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Mr Gearchange said:
I’d imagine that those selected for Special Forces are a special kind of cold, emotionless, unempathetic people.
Not in my experience - allsorts.