Considering a GT6 mk3

[craigjm]

GT6 Jonsey said:

When the time comes PM me, I know of some likely candidates

Ok cool thanks. It would be a bare metal job so wouldn’t have to be really tidy just not a complete dog and I would only consider a mk3 because I like the rear end.

[craigjm]

swiveleyedgit said:

GT6 Jonsey said:

I have seen many modded GT’s over the years but for me this is the nicest one I’ve had a nose around, nice mix of old and new

http://taylor-automotive.co.uk/Taylor-Automotive/T...

That is absolutely beautiful.

That would be perfect in a mk3 in the scheme i mention above and all the modern kit

[craigjm]

AW111 said:

Note - no rear wing seams.

Yep which is what I was asking above. I would definitely remove them

[craigjm]

GT6 Jonsey said:

Volvo engined GT, this one is a bit of an animal

The no bumpers thing doesn’t work IMO

[craigjm]

I’m going to contact Taylor Automotive and ask them how much they would charge to supply the suspension and brake modifications and overhaul the engine to that spec. Let’s see what they say

[craigjm]

I’ve had a reply....

Taylor automotive said:

Generally speaking I don't supply any of the parts that I've made for my GT6. This is because they won't fit a standard car in any way!

Suspension:

My suspension system doesn't use any of the standard mounting points on the original Triumph GT6 chassis. Therefore to use my suspension arms and uprights you would need to modify your chassis extensively.

At the rear this would include the need to use a Ford Sierra Cosworth diff. The changes to the chassis also require the internal rear arches to be modified to allow room for the coil over dampers.

Engine:

Yes I could build you an engine. However the gearbox in mine is a Mazda 6 speed unit which, you've guessed it, would require modifications to the chassis to make it fit.

If I was to do this project again I would go for 2.5L with a billet crank. Mine rev's but torque is more useable on the road than rev's.

With the bespoke castings, all the engine machining, bespoke head, Life racing ECU, dyno'd and ready to install I think you'd be looking at around £25k to build the engine. I would hope to see 210bhp+ on a 2.5 engine.

I've had several people ask me to build a copy of my GT6 but in reality it would cost too much to do. I built it as a hobby in my spare time so labour was free and there was a lot of it!

As a ball park figure for people that ask I say it would cost around £100k to build the car from a rusty shell.

If you've got any more questions please fire away, I'll try to help.

Best regards,

Geoff.

[craigjm]

Skyedriver said:

mods to the chassis require an IVA do they not?

No because it’s old enough not to need to worry about that

[craigjm]

aeropilot said:

craigjm said:

Skyedriver said:

mods to the chassis require an IVA do they not?

No because it’s old enough not to need to worry about that

Not true.

Fair enough but when I looked into it it said if the car was over 10 years old that it didn’t apply.
What does apply is that 8 point requirement from the radically altered vehicles requirement that’s for sure

[craigjm]

aeropilot said:

craigjm said:

What does apply is that 8 point requirement from the radically altered vehicles requirement that’s for sure

Precisely.
Doesn't make enough points, then its BIVA.

Which is why, you need to know if your build with mean BIVA, as you then need to accomodate the build in order for it to pass BIVA.

Good point, well made

[craigjm]

coops18 said:

Here is my Mk1 and she is just gorgeous,

How often do you use it?

[craigjm]

emwmarin said:

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All good points

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All in all I think modding a GT6 with big power wouldn't end well. You are better off starting with a cayman. Even an MX5 would react much better to big modding. All in my view.

p.s. Like you i've also got a Jag, an X300 lwb daimler sovereign. That's standard as well

All good points. However, I never actually said that I wanted to modify one with big power if you look back at my original posts. It’s a ladder chassis that dates back to the Stone Age. I am fully aware it’s not going to drive like a modern car and wouldn’t intend it to.

My initial thoughts at the top of the first page are the sort of things I would want to achieve.
I don’t give a st about getting my money back or maintaining value etc because it would be my car and not for sale. Same with my XJ coupe I would never get back what I have put into that but it’s mine and it’s unique. My way of doing things is never going to please the purists and that’s half of the fun

I think my original idea of using a TR6 engine and modifying it for better reliability is perfectly sane and everything else I suggested in the earlier posts perfectly reasonable.

Edited by craigjm on Sunday 10th February 11:53

[craigjm]

emwmarine said:

Sorry, just re-read the thread and your original list. I got side tracked when you mentioned a BMW six as an option.

My only thoughts on the 2,0 or the 2,5 are that I prefer the revvy nature of the 2,0. I've had a 2,5 PI saloon in the past and a TR6 and just prefer the nature of the 2,0 engine. No doubt it does give a lot more torque but the 2,0 can give decent power as well.

Jigsaw do a full kit for a type 9 five speed conversion but it isn't cheap. Personally, I prefer the overdrive and will get mine rebuilt by Mike Papworth next year.

Looking forward to seeing the coupe when it's finished.

Ahh makes sense, no worries I have contacted Jigsaw to see what they can do. All I would really want to do with it is make it more usable on the modern roads and to my style which is what I’m doing with the XJ

Have you, or anyone you’ve met along the way, had any experience of jigsaw?

[craigjm]

emwmarine said:

Yes. Mark is a true expert. I bought cv conversion kit from him and he built my engine. He did a lot of the work on the GT6 on car SOS.

Cool, I need to watch that episode

[craigjm]

Jigsaw have quoted approximately 15k inc vat for -

2.0 GT6 engine complete overhaul, balanced and flowed for best power, Weber fuel injection, distributorless on plug coil etc 140bhp setup with 5 speed gearbox

Uprated shocks and springs and other suspension components to their own spec

Polybushes throughout

Uprated brakes, lines etc to their own spec

[craigjm]

Yertis said:

craigjm said:

Cool, I need to watch that episode

It's on tonight at 9.00 – I shall be watching

I’m in South Africa at the moment so I’ll watch it online

[craigjm]

Just watched the SOS episode. Was great to be able to get a decent look at a deconstructed car. I think I would definitely go with the Jigsaw option listed above now to get it as modern as possible and then just trim it out and add the modern kit. Will be looking for a car towards the end of the year then. When I get one I’ll start a readers cars thread like I have for the XJ coupe