COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST! (Vol 3)

[DickyC]

Interesting. I thought the precursor to the Espada was the Pirana built on E-type running gear for the Daily Telegraph magazine by Bertone in the Sixties.

[P5BNij]

DickyC said:

Interesting. I thought the precursor to the Espada was the Pirana built on E-type running gear for the Daily Telegraph magazine by Bertone in the Sixties.

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

[DickyC]

P5BNij said:

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

PH at its best. Thanks, Nij!

[P5BNij]

DickyC said:

P5BNij said:

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

PH at its best. Thanks, Nij!

Or : ''PH poster absorbs far too much info from growing collection of Italian car books and feels the need to offload some of it from time to time!''.

The Marzal had half a Miura engine in the back whilst the Epsada had a full sized one in the front

Gandini went to town on this one but old Ferruccio wasn't keen on the large glass area, thinking that lady passengers wouldn't want to feel to exposed....!







The Rainiers took it for a spin round Monaco in '67...

[DickyC]

P5BNij said:

Gandini went to town on this one but old Ferruccio wasn't keen on the large glass area, thinking that lady passengers wouldn't want to feel to exposed....!

Modesty preserving Venetian blinds* were an option for the doors.

*A bloke I worked with in the late Seventies couldn't say "It had all the bells and whistles" without expanding it to "Bells, whistles, hot'n'cold folding doors, window boxes and Venetian blinds." Oh, how we laughed.

[DickyC]

DickyC said:

Modesty preserving Venetian blinds* were an option for the doors.

*A bloke I worked with in the late Seventies couldn't say "It had all the bells and whistles" without expanding it to "Bells, whistles, hot'n'cold folding doors, window boxes and Venetian blinds." Oh, how we laughed.

Even further off topic, this chap, Bob something, had a Triumph 2000 with the registration ARK 66H. I told him proudly my dad had owned a Triumph 1300TC with the registration ARK 606H. I don't think I'd ever seen a bloke so disinterested

[Harry Flashman]

rjg48 said:

Mercedes W124 Convertible. Dark Blue.

Seems to have moved in not far from my house.

I have one of these, in full drug dealer spec. Are they really bonafide classics yet? I hope so!

Came from the factory with the AMGII kit, but the ducktail, -40mm stance and 19 inch wheels are all the last owner's doing. All three are returning to original spec this winter - 20mm Sportline drop and 17 inch wheels to be reinstated, and ducktail to go.

It is also going to have the lump from a totalled C36 AMG fitted, to become a poor man's E36 AMG.

This car looks as if it should be parked outside an illegal rave in Manchester in the 1990s, whilst the owner checks on his boys selling ecstasy inside. And I bloody love it. Standard ones are so classy. Mine just...isn't.


Untitled by baconrashers, on Flickr

Edited by Harry Flashman on Wednesday 4th November 22:39

[Pericoloso]

DickyC said:

P5BNij said:

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

PH at its best. Thanks, Nij!

There's an orange car at Ferruccio's museum , not the factory one , with huge doors , not sure if hinged at front or top.
I have a pic on the potato phone , which doesn't post pics .

[GTRene]

Turbobanana said:

Pericoloso said:

A 318is in daily use by the look of it .

I don't really understand the love for these.

Dynamically average, unadventurous (if handsome) shape, not very comfortable / spacious / practical. I've driven them when new (boss's 1987 325i Sport) and as ratty used cars more recently and they're sort of OK, but not special. Feel better made than equivalent age Fords or Vauxhalls, not as well made as Mercedes or Saab. They just feel "average".

Halo effect of the E30 M3? What am I missing?

Back then, say till a few years ago, I really liked those, sau 320is or 325i in dark metallic colour and M-tech 1 or 2 kit, lovely.

But the last few years I also think, hm... I would rather have a big V8 in a nice 190e then in a e30 maybe I'm getting old

just today a car website throw this in my mailbox...this guy made a 190e lovely with big 6.0 V12 cost him much time and now ready for a new project, so this may go...not officially for sale yet, and yes V12 heavy but all alu and he changed a lot so it steers like one with a R6 motor or 16v engine

Its in Dutch, but I think there is also a older version were he speaks English.

https://www.autoweek.nl/autotests/artikel/mercedes...

[Harry Flashman]

I hear you. I wanted to put a V8 in my old Merc, but the costs were simply not worth it. Had to find the AMG version of my straight six instead for a far easier task...

[GTRene]

Harry Flashman said:

I hear you. I wanted to put a V8 in my old Merc, but the costs were simply not worth it. Had to find the AMG version of my straight six instead for a far easier task...

true, its very expensive, especially if most work has to be done by others.

you better buy a SLK 55 or AMG 55 C63 etc for less...

but...its so much fun, driving low profile in a classic with modern suspension and say a lovely AMG V8 under the bonnet,
but it comes at a cost if specialist have to do that job for you, you could buy for example 2 original AMG V8 cars for such built costs.

[P5BNij]

Pericoloso said:

DickyC said:

P5BNij said:

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

PH at its best. Thanks, Nij!

There's an orange car at Ferruccio's museum , not the factory one , with huge doors , not sure if hinged at front or top.
I have a pic on the potato phone , which doesn't post pics .

That’ll be the same prototype as the pic Peri. The poor thing languished outside for several years, dumped round the back of the factory along with the first two Urraco prototypes, they were destined for scrap when the Mimran brothers saved them and insisted they be restored when they took over the company c.1980.

[DickyC]

P5BNij said:

Pericoloso said:

DickyC said:

P5BNij said:

It was both Dicky, and the very first Espada prototype had Marzal style gullwing doors but with less glass in it. All three are the work of Gandini, seen in the pic below

When the Epsada was being 'shaped', they started by using the buck from the Pirana but tweaked it here and there.

PH at its best. Thanks, Nij!

There's an orange car at Ferruccio's museum , not the factory one , with huge doors , not sure if hinged at front or top.
I have a pic on the potato phone , which doesn't post pics .

That’ll be the same prototype as the pic Peri. The poor thing languished outside for several years, dumped round the back of the factory along with the first two Urraco prototypes, they were destined for scrap when the Mimran brothers saved them and insisted they be restored when they took over the company c.1980.

The general shape suits the Mimran and Pirana better than the Espada to my eye. To me the Espada looks stretched.

[Groot]

uk66fastback said:

No idea what this is ...

550 with roof...

[Doofus]

Groot said:

550 with roof...

It was answered ages sgo. It's a kit car.

[lukeharding]

[lukeharding]

[Turbobanana]

lukeharding said:

Nice, but the black plates don't suit it.

[Yertis]

Turbobanana said:

Nice, but the black plates don't suit it.

It's their car they can do want they want with it, etc.

But I agree completely.


I am aware there are more important problems in the world right now.

[rolando]

Doofus said:

rolando said:

Back in 1984 I was running a '76 Rover 2200TC. My boss was very proud of his BMW 323i until he couldn't keep with me on the gentle westward rise on the M4 up to Membury services.

Which, given he had more power, more torque amd less weight, is surprising.

Surprised me too at the time. The weight of the driver's right foot may, just may, have had something to do with it.