Time to stop plugging classics as investments?

Time to stop plugging classics as investments?

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LotusOmega375D

Original Poster:

7,655 posts

154 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Touring442 said:
vpr said:
A Mondial is the prime example of classic car madness

An utterly horrid car dragged up only by the values of its more desirable siblings.
Indeed. For years they were almost worthless engine donors, now they are the price of a 996 Turbo. Righto......
Oh yes the 996 Turbo: dragged up only by the values of its more desirable siblings...

orangeLP400

386 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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vpr said:
A Mondial is the prime example of classic car madness

An utterly horrid car dragged up only by the values of its more desirable siblings.
This knowledgeable comment, no doubt, from a man who owns a Reliant Regal.

CRA1G

6,549 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I don't think the Mondial was a bad car better than the 348 imo and having owned both it was more reliable than the 348....

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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orangeLP400 said:
vpr said:
A Mondial is the prime example of classic car madness

An utterly horrid car dragged up only by the values of its more desirable siblings.
This knowledgeable comment, no doubt, from a man who owns a Reliant Regal.
Extremely knowledgeable

lowdrag

12,904 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I must get my eyes tested. I was reading Mondeoeekeekconfused

randomcharacter

16 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Touring442 said:
vpr said:
A Mondial is the prime example of classic car madness

An utterly horrid car dragged up only by the values of its more desirable siblings.
Indeed. For years they were almost worthless engine donors, now they are the price of a 996 Turbo. Righto......
While I’d agree that the 996 Turbo is a better car than the Mondial in almost all objective ways, I think that it’s unfair to label it as a bad car that should be worth less than the Porsche (yes, I’ve driven both). For me, the Ferrari is way more special.

John Pogson certainly seems to like the one he had/has: https://youtu.be/WHkU1h_sKM4

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Beauty it subjective obviously but I cannot look at the Mondial with a glow, it’s just horrid. I just don’t see what people could possibly like about it. Funny old world.

The 348 was also technically not a good car but at least the proportions were good so it looked purposeful.

Main difference between the 996 Turbo and the Mondial is that the 996 was actually a good car and it worked.

CRA1G

6,549 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Unsorted said:
Also, it is unlikely that the posters car history began and finished with a Regal, but if so epic! Want to know more.
You mean the poster may have progressed to the 40 BHP "Kitten" to keep grounded on all four wheels ...hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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vpr said:
Main difference between the 996 Turbo and the Mondial is that the 996 was actually a good car and it worked.
But a lot of people would still prefer the Ferrari. To a lot of people, me included a Porsche in most cases will never be as special as a Ferrari.

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Raygun said:
vpr said:
Main difference between the 996 Turbo and the Mondial is that the 996 was actually a good car and it worked.
But a lot of people would still prefer the Ferrari. To a lot of people, me included a Porsche in most cases will never be as special as a Ferrari.
Yes that’s the sad fact I guess but you’re right.

Me, I’d rather have decent car than a badge

LotusOmega375D

Original Poster:

7,655 posts

154 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Quite true. I wouldn’t put them in the same category. I don’t think anyone who buys a Mondial would even consider a 996 Turbo and vice versa. I know I didn’t.

Penguinracer

1,593 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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... to be fair I reckon 8 out of 10 car enthusiasts would expect see Mondials parked near the bottom of trees denuded of all branches...

aeropilot

34,692 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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vpr said:
Raygun said:
vpr said:
Main difference between the 996 Turbo and the Mondial is that the 996 was actually a good car and it worked.
But a lot of people would still prefer the Ferrari. To a lot of people, me included a Porsche in most cases will never be as special as a Ferrari.
Yes that’s the sad fact I guess but you’re right.

Me, I’d rather have decent car than a badge
Indeed.
I'd even prefer to have a car that that wasn't decent, if I just liked it, rather than a badge.



vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I must admit I hate the “ITS A FERRARI WE MUST WORSHIP IT” mentality.


av185

18,518 posts

128 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Raygun said:
But a lot of people would still prefer the Ferrari. To a lot of people, me included a Porsche in most cases will never be as special as a Ferrari.
Depending on which Porsche or Ferrari we are referring to.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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av185 said:
Raygun said:
But a lot of people would still prefer the Ferrari. To a lot of people, me included a Porsche in MOST CASES will never be as special as a Ferrari.
Depending on which Porsche or Ferrari we are referring to.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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vpr said:
I must admit I hate the “ITS A FERRARI WE MUST WORSHIP IT” mentality.
The same could be said about a Porsche.
Imho I've always thought the shape of a 911 was downright ugly going back to the early 80s when they were still a rare sight, their saving grace was the fact they went like f**k which made people overlook the look of them and even worked to their advantage as they stood out.

lowdrag

12,904 posts

214 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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I've been lucky enough in life to own many rather interesting cars, a Ferrari included. Without doubt, one of the worst cars I have ever owned, and a big bubble had burst in my life. Sometimes achieving the dream is like finding out that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow doesn't exist. It was better as a dream.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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lowdrag said:
I've been lucky enough in life to own many rather interesting cars, a Ferrari included. Without doubt, one of the worst cars I have ever owned, and a big bubble had burst in my life. Sometimes achieving the dream is like finding out that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow doesn't exist. It was better as a dream.
I own a 2006 Ferrari F430 now and being 13 years old is quite dated compared to modern cars.
Anyone wanting to buy the 30 year old Mondial mentioned expecting fault free motoring and breathtaking performance should give it a miss like any old Ferrari, Lamborghini. It's not what it's all about

LotusOmega375D

Original Poster:

7,655 posts

154 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Correct. The Mondial is not a fast car and is at best an average performer by today’s performance standards. If you want a fast car, then buy something else. What it does give you is old school analogue motoring, mid-engined balance and room for two in the back if you have a family. Sort of like an Ur-Lotus Evora.