Any Marcos Fans?

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P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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coppice said:
As a teenager in late 60s I adored them , seeing my first at Harewood Hillclimb - Roger and Judy Andreason's Marcos 1800 (with Volvo engine ) . Saw the 3 litre V6 at the London motor show in 1968 and followed the various iterations with , God, Lawrencetune 1650, Ford V4 (hmm..), Volvo IL 6 , Triumph IL 6 and the the sundry Rover V8 cars and so on up to the bulging (and hideous ) Ford V8 GT racers .

Always torn between the original Ford 1500 (I think ? ) and the Elan for pure sexiness . The verdict goes to the Elan, but it's nearly a dead heat .

Any ...err... Mantis fans ? The orginal . obvs , with the , umm 'courageous' styling ?
Hands up, I admit it, I like the Mantis Coupe, particularly the interior which is just enough to distract your eyes away from the exterior wink


Deranged Rover

3,397 posts

74 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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I like the Mantis coupe too. It’s very oddness makes it appealing!

Martyn-123

652 posts

185 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Presently stripped down and body off awaiting a full restoration, last one was www.marcosmantula.co.uk

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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From the reg and bonnet bulge , an early Essex V6 I think ? Lovely

Kickstart

1,062 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Whack in a Ric Wood 280bhp engine, Atlas diff and T5 gearbox and you have one serious weapon


andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Kickstart said:
Whack in a Ric Wood 280bhp engine, Atlas diff and T5 gearbox and you have one serious weapon
And race it!

yellow elan

56 posts

71 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I have owned two 3 litre volvo marcos and regard them as the most fun car I have ever owned. However they are not easy to live with access being one and a low ground height is another. There are 22 speed humps between my house and the main road otherwise I would have another like a shot. After the mantula they started to sprout bumps and wings everywhere and to my eye they look a bit OTT. They appear to be difficult to sell as well.Six months ago a TS500 sold on THE MARKET for £18500 to a dealer who advertised it for £27500 it is now back on sale at The market, interesting to see what it goes for this time. A dealer in Scotland has had a car for sale for at least 5 years-being pink and advertised for £65000 might have something to do with it.
CAA12k , WL44J where are you now? Today I drive a new Mx5 and I have not a clue what the number plate is which sums up the car

Sortie 10

724 posts

252 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Not a massive fan of Marcos, but I was lucky enough to bump into Jem Marsh in Clevedon where he retired to. I think this picture is an owners' club visit to honour his 83rd birthday in April 2013
(I have one or two other pictures of the day - there was a great variety of models which made the pilgrimage & clearly delighted the founder, if members are interested I will add them to this thread).
Feel free to download this picture if you are in it!

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I was getting excited about getting one of these in the early noughties. Styled by an ex-TVR designer (which is easy to see) and with an LS3 V8 it was what I was looking for to replace my Chimaera.

Even sat in one at an event at Canary Wharf.
Alas they only made a few coupes.


Loose_Cannon

1,593 posts

253 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Martyn-123 said:


Presently stripped down and body off awaiting a full restoration, last one was www.marcosmantula.co.uk
That is truly beautiful, IMHO that is the best looking period in the long history of the Marcos, with the rectangular lights (Viva?). Keep it original, dont mod it or race it despite the usual advice!

Loose_Cannon

1,593 posts

253 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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P5BNij said:
Hands up, I admit it, I like the Mantis Coupe, particularly the interior which is just enough to distract your eyes away from the exterior wink

Another Mantis fan here (inside and out!). The interior of the Mantis was very competent, and loads better than any 4-seat Italian exotic of the day, have you seen the mess in an "equivalant" Jarama, Lele, Indy etc?

BTW I complemented Jem on the Mantis interior design when we spent a fantastic weekend at his B&B in Bradford on Avon (a couple of years before the pic above when he was in slightly better health). We enjoyed ourselves so much we stayed an extra night just for the natter. So many stories and tall tales were buried with him. His missus was lovely as well, hope she is still well.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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I like the Mantis, but for sheer interior style it can't hold a candle to a Mexico (Maserati, natch not Ford .. )

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Loose_Cannon said:
P5BNij said:
Hands up, I admit it, I like the Mantis Coupe, particularly the interior which is just enough to distract your eyes away from the exterior wink

Another Mantis fan here (inside and out!). The interior of the Mantis was very competent, and loads better than any 4-seat Italian exotic of the day, have you seen the mess in an "equivalant" Jarama, Lele, Indy etc?

BTW I complemented Jem on the Mantis interior design when we spent a fantastic weekend at his B&B in Bradford on Avon (a couple of years before the pic above when he was in slightly better health). We enjoyed ourselves so much we stayed an extra night just for the natter. So many stories and tall tales were buried with him. His missus was lovely as well, hope she is still well.
Interior wise the Jarama is pretty dull, the Lele I quite like but I think the Indy is really nice, especially the S1 version with the hexaganol pods, which actually more like Gandini's style than Vignale's.

Another quick Marcos pic.... it's still a stunning piece of design and styling, with echoes of cars which came before and after it, namely the E-Type, Ferrari 275GTB, Bizzarrini 5300GT and the lip at the back is very Alfa TZ1 / TZ2....


Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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dandarez said:

This car is off to Le Mans but never raced. I know what it is, only because I've spent the last 6 months (or much of it) engrossed in this marque!
I'm told by the oracle of GT's that the photo is of B.100107 - 7840 DF which was the GS Cars demonstrator going off to France driven by Bernard Gray as to go on holiday to Le Mans to watch the race in June 1963. The car is now in Australia

Apols to the Marcos folks for thread drifting into Gilberns. Love the Marcos.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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Huntsman said:
dandarez said:

This car is off to Le Mans but never raced. I know what it is, only because I've spent the last 6 months (or much of it) engrossed in this marque!
I'm told by the oracle of GT's that the photo is of B.100107 - 7840 DF which was the GS Cars demonstrator going off to France driven by Bernard Gray as to go on holiday to Le Mans to watch the race in June 1963. The car is now in Australia

Apols to the Marcos folks for thread drifting into Gilberns. Love the Marcos.
Don't apologise, gives me an excuse to continue with a couple Marcos connected snips (and Gilbern and Ginetta).

GS Cars had more than one Gilbern GT for use as a demonstrator - another later one was EDG 346C which featured in their adverts. This same car is also on the cover of a recent book.
The GT reg 7840 DF of Gray did indeed go on that United Ferries plane to France (I didn't know it was to 'holiday' at Le Mans, but that certainly makes sense now, but rumour had it that there were 3 GTs there at this same time, hence the speculation of race inclusion.
The other known Gilbern there at the same time in France was that of Lyndon Sims, reg MEU 636 -
Sims had won the 1956 RAC in an Aston DB2 - both Gray's and Sims' Gilbern GTs were pictured trackside at Le Mans.

Back on topic and Marcos.
Jem had association in the later days with Gilbern as this 'Echo' newspaper snippet shows.


Moons ago I used to pass the works at Westbury regularly when returning from Sparkford or Frome in Somerset, once pulled in there to have a nose round in my Ginetta - that was fun! biggrin

Bob Walklett, Ginetta's MD got on well with Jem Marsh. Both had been friends from the early days and together it was they who set up the British Specialist Sports Cars Manufacturers' Association in 1966.
Later they disbanded it and became members of SMMT.
Both Jem and Bob became members of the Motor Sports Committee, which was then chaired by Marcus Chambers of Rootes' fame.
Meetings were said to have been very lively with Bob and Jem's exchanges, especially as the committee was of course dominated by the 'big boys', not small fry like Marcos and Ginetta.


Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Sunday 14th February 2021
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One here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marcos-2000-GT-Classic-...

Love the pinto, good strong engine

GoodOlBoy

541 posts

103 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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piper said:
I am 6' 3, I had no problem fitting in. I owned two Mantara's not at the same time though, great cars, I enjoyed them both, took the first one to Le Mans in 2003

Looks like your old car is currently up for sale, seems a bit expensive ?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1371160#&...

Deranged Rover

3,397 posts

74 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Following on from my previous queries in this thread, I can confirm that I fit very nicely into a 1995 LM400. smile

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2,332 posts

282 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Deranged Rover said:
Following on from my previous queries in this thread, I can confirm that I fit very nicely into a 1995 LM400. smile
Any pictures ?

Deranged Rover

3,397 posts

74 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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None of me proving I fit into it, but here it is!