The I'm Bored Guess The Car Quiz (No Googling allowed)

[SAB888]

moffspeed said:

Talking of Italians there was another Panther concept that was nothing to do with Panther Cars UK.

Imagine a McLaren M6GT with a Chaparral-style wing glued on top and you get this :



So what's the story ??

There is a Lamborghini Espada in the background. Car in front is a Bertone but that's all I know about it.

[Equus]

SAB888 said:

There is a Lamborghini Espada in the background. Car in front is a Bertone..

That's because - surprisingly, since it bears little resemblance to their other work, and they're not known for racers - the Panther was also by Bertone.

It never raced.

[Johnspex]

SAB888 said:

moffspeed said:

Talking of Italians there was another Panther concept that was nothing to do with Panther Cars UK.

Imagine a McLaren M6GT with a Chaparral-style wing glued on top and you get this :



So what's the story ??

There is a Lamborghini Espada in the background. Car in front is a Bertone but that's all I know about it.

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Why, when it is clearly parked in someone 's garden , is it spinning its wheels ant yet there is nobody in it?

[moffspeed]

Why, when it is clearly parked in someone 's garden , is it spinning its wheels ant yet there is nobody in it?

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I believe it got no further than a 1:5 scale model but I'm guessing in a 70's version of photoshopping they scaled the photo up so the car matched the cobbled surface.

I'm sure they nicked the wing off Pininfarina's Sigma F1 car.

I hate it when the same names dominate a forum - can some new blood post the next one ??

[Equus]

moffspeed said:

I believe it got no further than a 1:5 scale model but I'm guessing in a 70's version of photoshopping they scaled the photo up so the car matched the cobbled surface.

They did build a full-sized one. The 1:5 scale model was displayed first, the full sized version at the Geneva Motor Show a little later.

Here it is on display at Geneva:

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Dapster said:

Turbobanana said:

Real or fake?

Surely a fake. If Porsche ever did experiment with a 6 wheeled racer, it's unlikely to have carried the full Martini livery, neatly matched to the prototype body. Bit of a 'shop I reckon.

Would agree, except this pic appeared in a 1977 Road & Track.

Photoshop obviously didn't exist, although skilled printers could dodge & burn to manipulate images to a certain degree.

It was in the April edition, mind...

[SAB888]

Johnspex said:

Why, when it is clearly parked in someone 's garden , is it spinning its wheels ant yet there is nobody in it?

They are solid wheels, no photoshop or magic.

[deeen]

Stumbled across this today, never heard of it... or maybe you've had it on this thread already?

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deeen said:

Stumbled across this today, never heard of it... or maybe you've had it on this thread already?

It's a tiny pic, but it looks a lot like a Murtaya kit car?

We have at least a couple of owners who occasionally frequent the Kit Car sub-forum on here.

It was developed from an earlier kit car called the Minari, which was based on AlfaSud/33 components with a glassfibre monocoque and was not as successful as it deserved to be, probably because of prejudice against front wheel drive.

The Murtaya replaced the FWD Alfa Boxer with the dimensionally similar Subaru flat-4 engine, complete with 4WD drivetrain and slightly more advanced composite monocoque (they added bits of Kevlar and carbon to the GRP, I think), and turned it into a bit of a weapon.

Still didn't sell very well, mind, 'cos the kit car market was fked by then.

[deeen]

Equus said:

deeen said:

Stumbled across this today, never heard of it... or maybe you've had it on this thread already?

It's a tiny pic, but it looks a lot like a Murtaya kit car?

We have at least a couple of owners who occasionally frequent the Kit Car sub-forum on here.

It was developed from an earlier kit car called the Minari, which was based on AlfaSud/33 components with a glassfibre monocoque and was not as successful as it deserved to be, probably because of prejudice against front wheel drive.

The Murtaya replaced the FWD Alfa Boxer with the dimensionally similar Subaru flat-4 engine, complete with 4WD drivetrain and slightly more advanced composite monocoque (they added bits of Kevlar and carbon to the GRP, I think), and turned it into a bit of a weapon.

Still didn't sell very well, mind, 'cos the kit car market was fked by then.

Oh, too easy then! Yes the seller listed it as a 2008 Adrenaline Murtaya, with the Subaru flat four.

[Turbobanana]

What's going on here?

[Ambleton]

The wheel that we can see is an early (50s) 2cv wheel, before they put the hole in the centre and caged nut to hold the hub-caps in place.

[Turbobanana]

Ambleton said:

The wheel that we can see is an early (50s) 2cv wheel, before they put the hole in the centre and caged nut to hold the hub-caps in place.

The car was built in 1947.

[wag2]

Looks to me like it might have four wheels arranged as a rhombus. I have read of a car with wheels like that but earlier than this one

[nicanary]

[quote=wag2]Looks to me like it might have four wheels arranged as a rhombus. I have read of a car with wheels like that but earlier than this one[/quote

Much earlier. 1901 Sunbeam-Mabley.

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moffspeed said:

Talking of Italians there was another Panther concept that was nothing to do with Panther Cars UK.

Imagine a McLaren M6GT with a Chaparral-style wing glued on top and you get this :



So what's the story ??

I had a plastic push and go electric model of this car when I was kid, the full title for the car was a Panther BRM, it always fascinated me, the model was bright orange.

[moffspeed]

I think the plan for a BRM V12 engine for the Bertone Panther never materialised and was one of the reasons that the project got binned.

I saw the funny little 2-ended car at Retromobile a few years ago, totally forgotten its name but, predictably, it was French. The 4 wheels are in diamond formation, the single front wheel steering, the middle wheels providing motivation and the rear wheel just acting as a castor.

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moffspeed said:

I saw the funny little 2-ended car at Retromobile a few years ago, totally forgotten its name but, predictably, it was French. The 4 wheels are in diamond formation, the single front wheel steering, the middle wheels providing motivation and the rear wheel just acting as a castor.

I believe the correct term is "rhombus", as the four sides of the "diamond" are equidistant.

Yes, it is French (as someone observed above, the wheels look distinctly 2CV-esque). It is Simca powered, and I guess you'd have to call it "mid-engined, mid wheel drive" or something - sounds far more exotic than a supercar.

[Pothole]

moffspeed said:

As the Panther 6 has just been mentioned, here it is, another 6 wheeler.

I remember seeing it under the lights at Earls Court and it did look absolutely stunning.

None of this plug into the socket and wait 3 hours nonsense. On the button, twin turbo'd 8.2 Litre Cadillac engine mounted amidships. Proper car.



...it did look better in the flesh.

Did it use a front wheel drive set up from the Caddy to drive the rear wheels then?

[Pothole]

moffspeed said:

I think the plan for a BRM V12 engine for the Bertone Panther never materialised and was one of the reasons that the project got binned.

They tried to source a mill from Maserati, too, but no luck...