Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction
Discussion
Legacywr said:
So these will bolt straight on, and work with the standard discs?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164697951927
Yes and err....no.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164697951927
They will fit on standard AVO discs, but IIRC...people back in the day fitted slightly bigger vented discs at the same time.....I have vague recollections that there was some pad overlap with the standard discs, which is not desirable, and you needed a slightly bigger diameter discs (10mm or so?) to avoid this happening.
Others with more recent knowledge may be able to better confirm, its 30 years for me, and as seen already, my memory may now be playing tricks.
aeropilot said:
Legacywr said:
So these will bolt straight on, and work with the standard discs?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164697951927
Yes and err....no.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164697951927
They will fit on standard AVO discs, but IIRC...people back in the day fitted slightly bigger vented discs at the same time.....I have vague recollections that there was some pad overlap with the standard discs, which is not desirable, and you needed a slightly bigger diameter discs (10mm or so?) to avoid this happening.
Others with more recent knowledge may be able to better confirm, its 30 years for me, and as seen already, my memory may now be playing tricks.
if stock size discs were used they did over hang with the 4 pot Princess AP calipers , was a company called Godspeed Racing IIRC that did the caliper spacers and longer bolts to widen the 4 pots to accommodate the vented discs 
Mark A S said:
Correct me if I'm wrong here but i "think" its the Capri 2.8i vented discs that go on nicely with these callipers ?
Yes but only when fitted with the above mentioned spacers the caliper as to be spaced 
Austin Princess had solid discs rather than the 2.8i (upgrade of choice for the Escort RS mob) vented discs , I ran some genuine RS3100 brakes on a Capri back in the day and the ventilated part made the 2.8i discs look a joke (crude and narrow) 
Zener said:
I ran some genuine RS3100 brakes on a Capri back in the day and the ventilated part made the 2.8i discs look a joke (crude and narrow)
The RS3100 front brakes were carried over from the RS2600, but I can't remember from which model parts bin, Ford got those from in 1970/71....early Granada perhaps or Mk.IV Zodiac??I seem to recall the front hubs on the RS26/31 were unique/different as well?
aeropilot said:
Zener said:
I ran some genuine RS3100 brakes on a Capri back in the day and the ventilated part made the 2.8i discs look a joke (crude and narrow)
The RS3100 front brakes were carried over from the RS2600, but I can't remember from which model parts bin, Ford got those from in 1970/71....early Granada perhaps or Mk.IV Zodiac??I seem to recall the front hubs on the RS26/31 were unique/different as well?
calipers were ATE form the MK1 Consul GT/Granada 3.0 IIRC the discs where unique as you say I was given the lot by my brother who found new old stock via Loot as I remember 
in the early 90's it all bolted up to the 3.0 struts/legs 
4 cylinder and the Bilstein 2.8i had a different format hub disc assy with different wheel bearings etc , the 3.0/RS3100 was a unique leg and used similar hub construction to Consul/Granada but with 4 studs not 5 Edited by Zener on Tuesday 23 March 14:55
Zener said:
aeropilot said:
Zener said:
I ran some genuine RS3100 brakes on a Capri back in the day and the ventilated part made the 2.8i discs look a joke (crude and narrow)
The RS3100 front brakes were carried over from the RS2600, but I can't remember from which model parts bin, Ford got those from in 1970/71....early Granada perhaps or Mk.IV Zodiac??I seem to recall the front hubs on the RS26/31 were unique/different as well?
calipers were ATE form the MK1 Consul GT/Granada 3.0 IIRC the discs where unique as you say I was given the lot by my brother who found new old stock via Loot as I remember in the early 90's it all bolted up to the 3.0 struts/legs 4 cylinder and the Bilstein 2.8i had a different format hub disc assy with different wheel bearings etc , the 3.0/RS3100 was a unique leg and used similar hub construction to Consul/Granada but with 4 studs not 5 Mark A S said:
aeropilot said:
Shame the prototype Granada RS Turbo never survived.
Do tell more, what Mk Granny, engine etc, sounds like that would have been a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing 
Back in the early 80’s when the luxury spec Granada Mk.1 V8 that AVO built for Henry Ford II when visiting UK, turned up in Scotland, the then owner indicated that he had been told by the guy he bought the car from some years earlier that AVO had built another Granada prior to the V8 one, when they were evaluating launching a Granada RS. Rumour was it was a 2-door Mk.1 Granada/Consul shell, with a turbocharged Essex V6, modified suspension etc., and usual RS bits like steering wheel and…..oh, that it was painted in Purple Velvet metallic. Fuel crisis put paid to it going any further, along with a struggle with the turbo install, which in pre-injection days was always an issue. Rumour is that it was that AVO V6 turbo project data that Superspeed had access to a year or so later, via their close Ford contacts, when they were commissioned by TVR to develop the TVR Turbo using the Essex V6. Whether that’s true or not is another matter.
All unsubstantiated rumours until the 2nd AVO OC Autotest we ran in the car park of the old AVO plant, and a few of the old AVO workers that still lived in the local Aveley/South Ockenden area turned up, and one of them was an ex-Special Build guy, and he was asked about a lot of the specials, and he indeed confirmed the existence of the purple Granada turbo, but that it was one of the many specials that didn’t escape into the public, like the 3 x Mexico Estates and the Frua Mex did for example, and thus ended up being crushed/destroyed, as did the Mexico camper van and a few other oddities built by AVO.
Touring442 said:
Henry Ford II also had built a metallic brown (Roman Bronze?) Mark II RS2000 with an automatic transmission. Does it still exist?
And electric sunroof IIRC.No idea whether it still exists, I would like to think so, but I have no idea whether the V8 Granada still exists either, as it was 35 years since I last saw it. AVOOC displayed it on their club stand at a NEC Classic Car show one year back in the 80's, will try and dig out the couple of photos I have of it.
aeropilot said:
Touring442 said:
Henry Ford II also had built a metallic brown (Roman Bronze?) Mark II RS2000 with an automatic transmission. Does it still exist?
And electric sunroof IIRC.No idea whether it still exists, I would like to think so, but I have no idea whether the V8 Granada still exists either, as it was 35 years since I last saw it. AVOOC displayed it on their club stand at a NEC Classic Car show one year back in the 80's, will try and dig out the couple of photos I have of it.
s m said:
aeropilot said:
Touring442 said:
Henry Ford II also had built a metallic brown (Roman Bronze?) Mark II RS2000 with an automatic transmission. Does it still exist?
And electric sunroof IIRC.No idea whether it still exists, I would like to think so, but I have no idea whether the V8 Granada still exists either, as it was 35 years since I last saw it. AVOOC displayed it on their club stand at a NEC Classic Car show one year back in the 80's, will try and dig out the couple of photos I have of it.
I think from vague memory, that was also built in the former Special Build bay at AVO, where the RS1800's were all assembled...?
s m said:
Touring442 said:
Henry Ford II also had built a metallic brown (Roman Bronze?) Mark II RS2000 with an automatic transmission. Does it still exist?
And an automatic 2.8 Capri
Edited by s m on Wednesday 24th March 11:17
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