Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction

[Maxdecel]

Mark A S said:

Wow again, That looks so bad it might just be the real deal, i would say 95% it is! I do hope the floor etc is partially salvageable.
Turreted, Atlas etc Those Early works Escorts were very basic in comparison to what they became.

Wonder why the cage, which i suspect was just a 6 point bolt in jobby, has been removed??

Fascinating

Well it's been white at one time Maybe removing the cage, engine etc. was first on the list in the renovation; then it stopped. Agree its condition befits a well used aged rally car; got all the right scars.
Vertical shockers & turreted, period fuel pump (Jag if I'm not mistaken?)
Did notice cable clutch to the 2000E box but that may be the get around in the early days before the Mexico appeared, after all it was a plan drawn on the back of a fag packet.
My mate compliments the text as he remembers seeing the rallycross on TV.

[I-am-the-reverend]

Mark A S said:

Maxdecel said:

For once I've found a car to match the thread title
https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/1-1969-ford-es...

Wow again, That looks so bad it might just be the real deal, i would say 95% it is! I do hope the floor etc is partially salvageable.
Turreted, Atlas etc Those Early works Escorts were very basic in comparison to what they became.

Wonder why the cage, which i suspect was just a 6 point bolt in jobby, has been removed??

Fascinating

That has the look and 'feel' of something that is right.

What a find.

[aeropilot]

aeropilot said:

That just might be the original shell......there's a few details to indicate it might be.

Although, it doesn't have any gussets on the front chassis leg/bulkhead - which I would have thought a Grp.6 spec Boreham shell would have had at the time...?

OK, a quick look in the 'bible' and it was built as a Group 2 car......should have been obvious really from the period photo's as it's fitted with quarter bumpers, and the Group 6 cars ran without.

Still a ? mark over the lack of bulkhead/chassis leg gussets., but that maybe correct for the time for Grp.2.?

[Hoonabator]

I do hope whoever buys that, if indeed it is the original car doesn’t just reshell it and justify that “because they reshelled them in period”

Hopefully they’ll try and preserve as much original metal as possible.

Edited by Hoonabator on Sunday 31st March 08:32

[Maxdecel]

And another £53,500 ..........47 miles since test in February 2015 :-

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1970-ford-e...

[Legacywr]

Love the seats.

[aeropilot]

Maxdecel said:

And another £53,500 ..........47 miles since test in February 2015 :-

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1970-ford-e...

53k for an Aussie built Twin Cam

And another muppet seller writing BS in adverts.
AVO had absolutely nothing to do with this car at all.

[gt40steve]

This looks like the one that was in the auction at Goodwood Circuit a few years ago.
It was a no sale at that time.

[Lefty]

£47k feels optimistic…?

[aeropilot]

Lefty said:

£47k feels optimistic…?

Similar have sold on Bangers&Cash for similar amount.....I would have thought £45k would be about top market rate, if its as good as the ad claims.

[AceRockatansky]

Lefty said:

£47k feels optimistic…?

Sounds about right. Even has the right colour wheels which will tick a few boxes round here.

[Lefty]

Oof I must be out of touch, I thought nice ones were still around £30k

[Maxdecel]

gt40steve said:

This looks like the one that was in the auction at Goodwood Circuit a few years ago.
It was a no sale at that time.

Good memory, found earlier. - https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/22718/lot/47/conc...
I know someone who has (had ?) an identical car.

[Mark A S]

Maxdecel said:

And another £53,500 ..........47 miles since test in February 2015 :-

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1970-ford-e...

Apart from the price, that is rather lovely. Irish reg no ???

Not sure, but my memory cells seem to tell me this was up for sale/restored in the Fareham area a few years ago ???????????

[Mark A S]

Lefty said:

Oof I must be out of touch, I thought nice ones were still around £30k

I'm with you here, crazy prices!

[PAUL.S.]

Out of interest are the brand new shells built to Type 49/Export spec as standard?

I take it the aussie car above was not Twin Cam spec when it left these shores originally then?

[s m]

Mark A S said:

Lefty said:

Oof I must be out of touch, I thought nice ones were still around £30k

I'm with you here, crazy prices!

Only crazy if you want to buy one I guess!!

[aeropilot]

PAUL.S. said:

I take it the aussie car above was not Twin Cam spec when it left these shores originally then?

It's got square headlamps, so it's a full Aussie built one, not one of the first batch which were 'knocked-down' build, assembled from a bodyshell and parts kit shipped out from Halewood, and thus had round headlamps...and full UK spec.

Ford-Aus soon after started using fully locally made Escorts parts including the body shell's which are not exact UK-spec Type 49 shells, and things like the rear axle radius arms were different, and quite a few other bits and pieces.....so a square headlamp Aussie TC is very different in detail to a UK built original TC.

[Legacywr]

aeropilot said:

PAUL.S. said:

I take it the aussie car above was not Twin Cam spec when it left these shores originally then?

It's got square headlamps, so it's a full Aussie built one, not one of the first batch which were 'knocked-down' build, assembled from a bodyshell and parts kit shipped out from Halewood, and thus had round headlamps...and full UK spec.

Ford-Aus soon after started using fully locally made Escorts parts including the body shell's which are not exact UK-spec Type 49 shells, and things like the rear axle radius arms were different, and quite a few other bits and pieces.....so a square headlamp Aussie TC is very different in detail to a UK built original TC.

They were quite a bit cheaper too, the last time I looked.

They seem to be a bigger spread of colours too, compared to the generally white uk cars.

[aeropilot]

Legacywr said:

aeropilot said:

PAUL.S. said:

I take it the aussie car above was not Twin Cam spec when it left these shores originally then?

It's got square headlamps, so it's a full Aussie built one, not one of the first batch which were 'knocked-down' build, assembled from a bodyshell and parts kit shipped out from Halewood, and thus had round headlamps...and full UK spec.

Ford-Aus soon after started using fully locally made Escorts parts including the body shell's which are not exact UK-spec Type 49 shells, and things like the rear axle radius arms were different, and quite a few other bits and pieces.....so a square headlamp Aussie TC is very different in detail to a UK built original TC.

They were quite a bit cheaper too, the last time I looked.

They seem to be a bigger spread of colours too, compared to the generally white uk cars.

Yep, square lamp Aussie cars were available in any of full range of Aussie Escort colours.