I’m done with vintage cars - not

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Allan L said:

wl606 said:

I've often thought about getting an Austin 7 Ulster special type thing. Which is far from being the slowest pre-war around but is like a snail in comparison to modern cars, and that has always put me off. When leaving a VSCC rally or trial there's always that journey home where you, and about 10 other cars, are stuck behind some pre-war car, until they pull over to let everyone by. I don't think I'd enjoy driving slowly and having a stack of cars following every time I went out.

If you are going to go slowly you may as well get a pre-Great War car such as this! (45 m.p.h. max but a comfortable 35-40 all day)


then you can take your revenge on the caravans and horse boxes that otherwise get in your way and you can enjoy that . . .

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For me, despite the allure, the veterans are a step to far, mainly because I would be concerned about the financial upkeep. At some stage I must try and blag a ride out in one, just for the sheer experience of what I’m missing.

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Allan L said:

crankedup said:

IIRC Riley were another Company that used the Meadows engines? I did enjoy a Bayliss Thomas
open tourer with one of their engines, great engine it was too.
Riley, another great British car, full of quality and broad range of models.

Riley made their own engines, even in the Veteran period.
Vintage Lea-Francis used Meadows engines as did a few Frazer Nash (of which some 200% survive).

Yes apologies I’m getting myself mixed up, must be old age!

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Allan L said:

crankedup said:

For me, despite the allure, the veterans are a step to far, mainly because I would be concerned about the financial upkeep. At some stage I must try and blag a ride out in one, just for the sheer experience of what I’m missing.

That 1912 Mors is too modern to be a Veteran and although King Edward VII died in1910 we refer to cars of the post-1904/pre-1920 period as Edwardian.

Blimey I didn’t know that a fourth category had been installed. Every day is a school day.

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lowdrag said:

crankedup said:

IIRC Riley were another Company that used the Meadows engines? I did enjoy a Bayliss Thomas
open tourer with one of their engines, great engine it was too.
Riley, another great British car, full of quality and broad range of models.

Since the first time I saw one in a museum nearly forty years ago, there is one car that uses the Meadows engine that I have always lusted after, yet will never ever be able to afford. An Invicta Low Chassis. When I first saw one they were about £40,000, and now nearer a million.

Looks like a super sporting car, my meadows engine was the more modest 1500cc OHV but it still pushed along my Bayliss Thomas very nicely indeed. It’s one car that I wish I had kept.
Now some ‘top end’ desirable cars have hit stratospheric prices they are now stuck in air conditioned heated lock-ups and sold on at ever higher prices year on year. Will they ever see the roads again and gain a patina I wonder, I suspect not.

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GoodOlBoy said:

Lily the Pink said:

Better than our friends over the water who seem to refer to anything pre-1970 as "Vintage".

Whereas in the UK we refer to anything more than ten years old as "Classic"

My Fiat coupe 20vt is a ‘modern classic’.