A 'period' classics pictures thread (Mk III)

A 'period' classics pictures thread (Mk III)

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52classic

2,530 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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bigothunter said:
JeremyH5 said:
That’s my thought too.
That's helpful rofl
Well, I was thinking Fiat 127. Just to be different!

Milkyway

9,468 posts

54 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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52classic said:
bigothunter said:
JeremyH5 said:
That’s my thought too.
That's helpful rofl
Well, I was thinking Fiat 127. Just to be different!
I’ll go wild, Mini (a real one) & Fiat 124 S by the pillar. ( Twin headlights)


Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 1st April 14:55

manorcom

303 posts

103 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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I have just found some pics of my dads Damler Double 6 VDP in Paris. In 1978 they travelled with wealthy friends to stay at their flat overlooking the Bois de Boulogne. The friend, a RR Shadow owner, and dad had a few days earlier gone on a drive to decide which car to go in. They both concluded that the Daimler was the best for the job. So the reports that at that time it probably was the best car in the world [apart from build quality] were true. Dads pal ordered a new on on their return. Dig dads trousers!




Rob 131 Sport

2,533 posts

53 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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manorcom said:
I have just found some pics of my dads Damler Double 6 VDP in Paris. In 1978 they travelled with wealthy friends to stay at their flat overlooking the Bois de Boulogne. The friend, a RR Shadow owner, and dad had a few days earlier gone on a drive to decide which car to go in. They both concluded that the Daimler was the best for the job. So the reports that at that time it probably was the best car in the world [apart from build quality] were true. Dads pal ordered a new on on their return. Dig dads trousers!



Absolutely great pictures. You really can’t beat a Jaguar/ Daimler saloon of that era, and the V12 had impressive performance.

Dan Singh

872 posts

51 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Milkyway said:
52classic said:
bigothunter said:
JeremyH5 said:
That’s my thought too.
That's helpful rofl
Well, I was thinking Fiat 127. Just to be different!
I’ll go wild, Mini (a real one) & Fiat 124 S by the pillar. ( Twin headlights)


Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 1st April 14:55
You're all wrong! It's a Hillman Imp.

Dapster

6,965 posts

181 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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manorcom said:
Brilliant pics! All Frenchies in the background apart from the silver Golf in the pic above this, and the B1 Audi 80/Passat right on the left edge of frame here. The red Renault 14 would have been quite new in '78 - probably only a year or so after launch.

Fully loaded V12 Double Six getting a move on down the autoroute with the aircon on - must have been low teens MPG. Holiday fuel bill would have been eyewatering!

cayman-black

12,648 posts

217 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Not at all fuel cost less than 50p back then.

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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cayman-black said:
Not at all fuel cost less than 50p back then.
Allowing for inflation, 1978 petrol price translates 85p / litre now. That's 58% of today's price or 72% increase over the years.

Venisonpie

3,282 posts

83 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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P5BNij said:
Parkeston Quay, 1977...

There's a lot of unregistered Fords which I guess were either being imported or exported. The car transporter firm was Toleman who's trucks were a regular feature around Parkston at that time.
There was also the excitement of watching the boat train load up on Harwich harbour bound for Hamburg I think.

Dapster

6,965 posts

181 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I said that tongue in cheek, but I did a bit of digging. Yes, '78 fuel price was, inflation adjusted, much lower than today but pre C19 and Ukraine, UK average retail price was c 120ppl for years.

A V12 Double Six did 12 - 15mpg. A modern V12 equivalent, say a BMW 760iL or Mercedes S65 use roughly half the fuel, 23- 25 mpg combined. So back then, the fuel bills would have stung.

Interesting though that a modern large family car, say a 520d would be doing 45 - 50 mpg on a long run, twice as good again. However a SD1 or Granada back then wouldn't be doing all that much better than the Daimler!

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Dapster said:
I said that tongue in cheek, but I did a bit of digging. Yes, '78 fuel price was, inflation adjusted, much lower than today but pre C19 and Ukraine, UK average retail price was c 120ppl for years.

A V12 Double Six did 12 - 15mpg. A modern V12 equivalent, say a BMW 760iL or Mercedes S65 use roughly half the fuel, 23- 25 mpg combined. So back then, the fuel bills would have stung.

Interesting though that a modern large family car, say a 520d would be doing 45 - 50 mpg on a long run, twice as good again. However a SD1 or Granada back then wouldn't be doing all that much better than the Daimler!
Improvements in fuel 'economy' have been absorbed by elevated fuel prices and taxation. The consumer has seen almost no benefit beyond less frequent visits to the forecourt.

All seems rather opportunist and imbalanced scratchchin

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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manorcom said:
I have just found some pics of my dads Damler Double 6 VDP in Paris. In 1978 they travelled with wealthy friends to stay at their flat overlooking the Bois de Boulogne. The friend, a RR Shadow owner, and dad had a few days earlier gone on a drive to decide which car to go in. They both concluded that the Daimler was the best for the job. So the reports that at that time it probably was the best car in the world [apart from build quality] were true. Dads pal ordered a new on on their return. Dig dads trousers!



Great pics! I remember the feature in CAR magazine that concluded it was the best car in the world at the time when BL could knock out a good one. My dad bought a 1979 Series III 5.3V12 Jag (CNF 700T) and yes you could physically see the needle on the fuel gauage dropping as you went along! But what a car and engine.

Turbobanana

6,289 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Milkyway said:
I’ll go wild, Mini (a real one) & Fiat 124 S by the pillar. ( Twin headlights)
Do you mean the Triumph Dolomite?

Turbobanana

6,289 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Dan Singh said:
You're all wrong! It's a Hillman Imp.
Sorry Dan - I'm not buying that. Looks Mk1 Escort to me, from back in the days when they were a cheap old car and not a future historic rally / race / show car worth thousands.

I bought one as my first car, aged 15, in 1983. A 1300L 2 door, it had crumbling rear arches but was otherwise sound and ran well. I learned to drive in it on a beach before selling for a profit after a year.

aeropilot

34,660 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Turbobanana said:
Dan Singh said:
You're all wrong! It's a Hillman Imp.
Sorry Dan - I'm not buying that. Looks Mk1 Escort to me, from back in the days when they were a cheap old car and not a future historic rally / race / show car worth thousands.
If it is a Sebring Red Mk.1 Escort, it's no more than 3-4 years old.....

Typhoo

44 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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"What's the red car parked behind the wall (mostly hidden by the pedestrian)?"

I'm inclined to go more with Dan Singh's suggestion but more precisely, a Sunbeam Stiletto,



but it could just as easily be a Mk1 Escort.



To be fair it's not a great image when I zoom in on my old laptop.

aeropilot

34,660 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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I'm not convinced its a Mk.1 Escort.


finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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The top of the windscreen curving down towards the edge is more in keeping with the Escort than the Imp.

Dan Singh

872 posts

51 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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My assumption was based on the distance between the crease in the bonnet and the outside edge of the front wing, it is wider on the Imp variants than the Escort. The screen seems more upright than an Escort too.
However, poor resolution, and that bloke in the way means there is also a good case for the Escort argument.

52classic

2,530 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I still think it is a Fiat 127. Narrow enough to hide behind the pedestrian as it does.