Classic Car Dealers...

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Yertis

18,173 posts

268 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Shezbo said:
One of my fav's, the title reads:

"Low mileage and full dealer service history"

The ad then reads:

"Car has done 115,000 miles which is low for the year, the services were carried out by a main dealer for the first 3 years and then...."
In similar vein, spotted earlier an ad proclaiming “Only two long-term owners”; reading on reveals a host of additional ‘not long-term’ owners.

kevinon

835 posts

62 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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GoodOlBoy said:
Bobo W said:
I did a feature with Classic Cars some time back where I got to drive a dream car (240Z) - although not their usual fare, borrowed a car from Vintage & Prestige whose proprietor, Richard Biddulph, is most definitely a “purveyor”
I can think of more appropriate word to describe him but this is a family show wink
He wears bow-ties, hats and tweeds in the way Jimmy Savile wore trainers, sweatbands and tracksuits.

Auto810graphy

1,433 posts

94 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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scs1 said:
I am a regular reader of the Classic Car magazines, and every month I check the stock of a" Purveyor of Carriages " based in Kent and sure enough there is the two tone green Bentley that has been on his website for at least five years.
After all this time you would have thought that it would have dawned on him that perhaps it is over priced,
Apart from the bad PR that is generated by having a car sitting there month after month, you would think that perhaps it was time to cut your losses and shift it through the trade.
Probably their own car or Sale Or Return. I know a few mainstream dealers who have something nice advertised above market value with the attitude if someone enquires at the higher price they will let it go.

restoman

941 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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There is a dealer fairly local to me - mainly the same cars advertised for at least 18 months / 2 years. Just to inspire confidence the cars are listed in the press and on ebay as 'Trade', on Carandclassic the same cars are listed a private . . .

There are also one or two dealers with cars with nice glossy resprays which always makes me suspicous.

Turbobanana

6,400 posts

203 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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The most frustrating thing for me is the number of "dealers" who buy something at auction and immediately offer it for sale with a piss-taking markup. I'm all for making money on cars (I did it myself for 18 years), but it took me all of 2 minutes to spot this £8500 (134%) markup using a freely-available, non-subscription website.



The sad fact is that someone will fall for it.

CloudStuff

3,736 posts

106 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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rovermorris999 said:
Classic car dealers? Surely you mean Purveyors of Gentlemen's Carriages.
And here we have an exquisite example......

P5BNij

15,875 posts

108 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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This '69 Wood & Pickett Mk2 Cooper S made c.£47k at the NEC auction a few years ago, it's currently with a dealer at £140k...



A couple of years before it made £47k at the NEC I just missed out on it when it was £27k.


swisstoni

17,309 posts

281 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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I understand the outrage at the huge markups but really, that’s the business they are in.

They scour the auctions, take the initial risk of purchase, transport from auction and market the vehicle.

Some people don’t have the sense or possibly the time to do that themselves and will pay for the privilege.

GoodOlBoy

543 posts

105 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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swisstoni said:
I understand the outrage at the huge markups but really, that’s the business they are in.

They scour the auctions, take the initial risk of purchase, transport from auction and market the vehicle.

Some people don’t have the sense or possibly the time to do that themselves and will pay for the privilege.
I agree, and let's face it they paid more than anyone else was willing to at the time.

Turbobanana

6,400 posts

203 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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GoodOlBoy said:
swisstoni said:
I understand the outrage at the huge markups but really, that’s the business they are in.

They scour the auctions, take the initial risk of purchase, transport from auction and market the vehicle.

Some people don’t have the sense or possibly the time to do that themselves and will pay for the privilege.
I agree, and let's face it they paid more than anyone else was willing to at the time.
Both very valid points, although "outrage" feels a bit strong. But...the seller is registered as private, so no trade facilities / comeback / overheads etc. It's literally been collected, cleaned and put up for sale 2 weeks later, presumably as undeclared income.

Asking price looks ambitious, so it'll be interesting to see if it sells.

Lester H

2,782 posts

107 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Auto810graphy said:
grumpy52 said:
When I first started reading car mags all the big name publications were full of dealers that mentioned Gentlemen, Carriages, Fine , Discerning etc in their adverts .
I also remember one who sold mid range and flakey classics that did very tongue in cheek adverts for his stock . His was one of the sections that were a go to each month along with the famous name writers like LJK Set right and Tony Dron
Maybe this one?

Bob will be sadly missed as he was self-deprecating and often critical of his own cars.The unpompous style was a breath of fresh air compared to the typical flannel quoted on this thread.

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

194 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Who was the dealer who put ‘NLAMN’ after his name?

Mercky

642 posts

137 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Who was the guy who put F.A.R.T after his name?

sjc

14,048 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Anyone remember a chap called Daniel Curnock who ran something called the 80’s Emporium? Used to love his 3000 word descriptions of each car and how he could make changing a dust cap sound like a massive job.
Oddly all trace of his website has disappeared and I can’t find any historic adverts either.

CRA1G

6,610 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Martin Inghams advertising was a little always strange.... "Governments toppled,wars fought,revolutions organised,donations welcome"...!rolleyes

bumskins

1,510 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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CRA1G said:
Martin Inghams advertising was a little always strange.... "Governments toppled,wars fought,revolutions organised,donations welcome"...!rolleyes
"TEL: BOLTON" - explains it, must be trying for 'humour'.

Allan L

784 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Ex Boy Racer said:
Who was the dealer who put ‘NLAMN’ after his name?
John Brown No Letters After My Name was our local man.
His stock was pretty variable from Veterans to "Classic", some even with provenence.

AMGSee55

651 posts

104 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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sjc said:
Anyone remember a chap called Daniel Curnock who ran something called the 80’s Emporium? Used to love his 3000 word descriptions of each car and how he could make changing a dust cap sound like a massive job.
Oddly all trace of his website has disappeared and I can’t find any historic adverts either.
Certainly do - I sold my Audi 80 to him for a decent price 15 years ago. Straightforward guy as I recall. He started out specialising in 928s, SECs and 6-Series, but inevitably diversified as these became thinner on the ground. His prose was a sort of earlier incarnation of what KGF now do (minus the white background!) - all paint codes and optional extras listed and I'll be honest, it was very seductive. He could make a Volvo 740 estate sound as appealing as a 1920s Bugatti biggrin

sjc

14,048 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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AMGSee55 said:
sjc said:
Anyone remember a chap called Daniel Curnock who ran something called the 80’s Emporium? Used to love his 3000 word descriptions of each car and how he could make changing a dust cap sound like a massive job.
Oddly all trace of his website has disappeared and I can’t find any historic adverts either.
Certainly do - I sold my Audi 80 to him for a decent price 15 years ago. Straightforward guy as I recall. He started out specialising in 928s, SECs and 6-Series, but inevitably diversified as these became thinner on the ground. His prose was a sort of earlier incarnation of what KGF now do (minus the white background!) - all paint codes and optional extras listed and I'll be honest, it was very seductive. He could make a Volvo 740 estate sound as appealing as a 1920s Bugatti biggrin
Certainly could ! He'd have for instance 2 Volvo's one a 740 where he'd say " without the complexities of the uneconomical V6 in the 760", and directly below he'd have a 760 where he'd say " having the much smoother and surprisingly economical V6" !
Used to love his adverts though....wonder where he's gone?

DonnieSandy

1 posts

15 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Talking of classic cars, what are the best sites to look at for car sales, desperatly seeking a MK2 RS (yes who isnt!!) but not seeing anything much on the usuall car sites, just wondering if Im missing out on any gems!!