How about a 'period' classics pictures thread

How about a 'period' classics pictures thread

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theadman

551 posts

158 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Johnspex said:
52classic said:
C'mon, end our misery!! My guess is a Willerby product.
Castleton or Carlight?
Neither of those two. Firstly they were towards the top end of the market (Carlight was the top end of the market). Secondly, they used traditional construction - aluminium panels over a wood frame. Carlight did eventually employ fibreglass for the front and rear panels.

The only mainstream manufacturer using a complete fibreglass shell in the '60s was Viking Fibreline. I'm not sure they sold any in kit form though.

I'm sure there were other smaller caravan kit manufacturers as well that sold just the shell, but I'm not sure who they were.


theadman

551 posts

158 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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iSore said:
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
steely dan said:


Taggarts BMC Dealers , Motherwell, Lanarkshire .
I can smell the leather interior on that VDP......
Just wondering what year this was taken - can anyone remember when the A40 went out of production...? All of the Minis there are Mk1s which ceased production in September '67, although many sat around in showrooms for over a year afterwards (good deals to be had after the Mk2s came in). Vdp was launched in '63 / '64 wasn't it..?
I'm more astonished that there's a new VDP Princess Limo in the showroom, given they were likely only built to order in very small numbers by the mid 60's...!!

It could easily be as late as '67, but I'd guess 65-66?
Way out - 1964. The VdP is a 3 Litre with the proper tail fins, replaced in '64 by the 4 Litre with the 1800 horizontal tail lights.
Spot on - the 3 Litre made way for the 4 Litre R for the 1965 model year (Oct 64). I think the 3 Litre was launched in late 1961 when the equivalent Wolseley moved from being the 6/99 to the 6/110 and the Westminster received its new grille and interior makeover.

I think that the car in the foreground is an Oxford and the rear light makes it a Series Vl. Again I think these were launched in 1962, so the picture was taken somewhere between 1962 and 1964. It could be that the Sprite/Midget in the background could increase our accuracy.




52classic

2,555 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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OK, then for a second guess on the caravan I'll say made by Pearman Briggs.

forsure

2,121 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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theadman said:
It could be that the Sprite/Midget in the background could increase our accuracy.
Looks like they have side-screens, so that makes them Mk2 (Sprite).
Which only confirms '64 at the latest.

gothatway

5,783 posts

171 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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theadman said:
iSore said:
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
steely dan said:


Taggarts BMC Dealers , Motherwell, Lanarkshire .
I can smell the leather interior on that VDP......
Just wondering what year this was taken - can anyone remember when the A40 went out of production...? All of the Minis there are Mk1s which ceased production in September '67, although many sat around in showrooms for over a year afterwards (good deals to be had after the Mk2s came in). Vdp was launched in '63 / '64 wasn't it..?
I'm more astonished that there's a new VDP Princess Limo in the showroom, given they were likely only built to order in very small numbers by the mid 60's...!!

It could easily be as late as '67, but I'd guess 65-66?
Way out - 1964. The VdP is a 3 Litre with the proper tail fins, replaced in '64 by the 4 Litre with the 1800 horizontal tail lights.
Spot on - the 3 Litre made way for the 4 Litre R for the 1965 model year (Oct 64). I think the 3 Litre was launched in late 1961 when the equivalent Wolseley moved from being the 6/99 to the 6/110 and the Westminster received its new grille and interior makeover.

I think that the car in the foreground is an Oxford and the rear light makes it a Series Vl. Again I think these were launched in 1962, so the picture was taken somewhere between 1962 and 1964. It could be that the Sprite/Midget in the background could increase our accuracy.
I think that, as stated above, it is a VdP Princess Limo over on the right (though the bonnet does look a bit short) - what else could it be assuming it was a current model BMC car ?

RichB

51,693 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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gothatway said:
I think that, as stated above, it is a VdP Princess Limo over on the right (though the bonnet does look a bit short) - what else could it be assuming it was a current model BMC car ?
Yes that's exactly what it is, for example look at the shape round the quarter-light.

http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/vanden-pla...


P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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London, 1967...


soxboy

6,327 posts

220 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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P5BNij said:
London, 1967...

I might have to show this picture to my 8 year old son. He had seen in an old book about somebody mowing down a row of parking meters and I was trying to explain what they used to be, he was very puzzled with my explanation.

RichB

51,693 posts

285 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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soxboy said:
P5BNij said:
London, 1967...

I might have to show this picture to my 8 year old son. He had seen in an old book about somebody mowing down a row of parking meters and I was trying to explain what they used to be, he was very puzzled with my explanation.
Have they all gone? I hadn't noticed, shows how long since I drove to London and parked...

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

178 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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A40 - seriously damaged in the floods, Exmouth, Devon, 1960.


aeropilot

34,736 posts

228 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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LordBretSinclair said:
A40 - seriously damaged in the floods, Exmouth, Devon, 1960.

Probably only about 6 months old or even newer, looking at the cleanliness under the bonnet and under the front arch.

iSore

4,011 posts

145 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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theadman said:
Spot on - the 3 Litre made way for the 4 Litre R for the 1965 model year (Oct 64). I think the 3 Litre was launched in late 1961 when the equivalent Wolseley moved from being the 6/99 to the 6/110 and the Westminster received its new grille and interior makeover.

I think that the car in the foreground is an Oxford and the rear light makes it a Series Vl. Again I think these were launched in 1962, so the picture was taken somewhere between 1962 and 1964. It could be that the Sprite/Midget in the background could increase our accuracy.
The car in the foreground is almost 100% another VdP 3 Litre or an A110. Austin and Morris had separate dealerships back then to the Oxford would be an A60 that had different tail lights. This is an Austin dealer - Austin, Healey and VdP. Mini Coopers arrived late 1961 so 1962-4 is about right. No Cooper S could make in 1962 give our take a month or three!

I do like a Westminster - a late A110 Deluxe with the wood dash would do me - I love the big grille and fins combo, very Lancia Flaminia /Peugeot 404 Pininfarina.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

248 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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LordBretSinclair said:
A40 - seriously damaged in the floods, Exmouth, Devon, 1960.

Panel fit only marginally worse than when new biggrin
FFG

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

151 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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soxboy said:
P5BNij said:
London, 1967...

I might have to show this picture to my 8 year old son. He had seen in an old book about somebody mowing down a row of parking meters and I was trying to explain what they used to be, he was very puzzled with my explanation.
Judging by the dent in that Beetle's bonnet (oooh, beetle bonnet, f'narr), it might have been that wot done the deed

Shame it's been untaxed since 1985, even if it's a 1200 not the acme 1500 it's still a one-year only '67 model and they're getting rare and ....dare I say... collectible now

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

178 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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aeropilot said:
Probably only about 6 months old or even newer, looking at the cleanliness under the bonnet and under the front arch.
The "salvage men" obviously thought it was worth something smile


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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LordBretSinclair said:
A40 - seriously damaged in the floods, Exmouth, Devon, 1960.

it should knock out. just reminds us how well Cars have developed over the years.

theadman

551 posts

158 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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iSore said:
theadman said:
Spot on - the 3 Litre made way for the 4 Litre R for the 1965 model year (Oct 64). I think the 3 Litre was launched in late 1961 when the equivalent Wolseley moved from being the 6/99 to the 6/110 and the Westminster received its new grille and interior makeover.

I think that the car in the foreground is an Oxford and the rear light makes it a Series Vl. Again I think these were launched in 1962, so the picture was taken somewhere between 1962 and 1964. It could be that the Sprite/Midget in the background could increase our accuracy.
The car in the foreground is almost 100% another VdP 3 Litre or an A110. Austin and Morris had separate dealerships back then to the Oxford would be an A60 that had different tail lights. This is an Austin dealer - Austin, Healey and VdP. Mini Coopers arrived late 1961 so 1962-4 is about right. No Cooper S could make in 1962 give our take a month or three!

I do like a Westminster - a late A110 Deluxe with the wood dash would do me - I love the big grille and fins combo, very Lancia Flaminia /Peugeot 404 Pininfarina.
Good point about the separation of Austin and Morris franchises. However, they did combine at some stage or our local dealer had both franchises. Did Morris sit with MG and Wolseley I wonder? And how did what was left of Riley in the early 60s fit in?

Personally I like the Wolseley 6/110, preferably Mkll, manual with overdrive! That VdP 3 Litre in the photo is lovely though.

iSore

4,011 posts

145 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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It think it was Morris MG Wolseley Riley (Nuffield) and then Austin VDP and Healey. Both had Minis, 1100's, Farinas and 1800's in common so neither lost out.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Nik da Greek said:
soxboy said:
P5BNij said:
London, 1967...

I might have to show this picture to my 8 year old son. He had seen in an old book about somebody mowing down a row of parking meters and I was trying to explain what they used to be, he was very puzzled with my explanation.
Judging by the dent in that Beetle's bonnet (oooh, beetle bonnet, f'narr), it might have been that wot done the deed

Shame it's been untaxed since 1985, even if it's a 1200 not the acme 1500 it's still a one-year only '67 model and they're getting rare and ....dare I say... collectible now
I had no idea it was one year only model, thanks for that.

Marc Bolan sitting in his wife's 1275GT in 1976, the year before the fatal accident on Barnes Common...



An earlier shot with another of his toys...


cjb44

683 posts

119 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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P5BNij said:
I had no idea it was one year only model, thanks for that.

Marc Bolan sitting in his wife's 1275GT in 1976, the year before the fatal accident on Barnes Common...



An earlier shot with another of his toys...

Cracking Aceca, but if my memory serves me correctly he actually bought this car for his wife.
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