How about a 'period' classics pictures thread
Discussion
Pericoloso said:
SilverHarrier said:
Nice picture!
What's the coupe next to the clubman estate??
Is it an early Aston DBS ?What's the coupe next to the clubman estate??
In the background, behind the transit pick-up there'a a black car which I'm not sure on - maybe a Consul (sp).
Pericoloso said:
How old could those trains be ?
The one on the left looks quite old fashioned.
Nerd alert : the one on the left was built in late 1961, one of 74 of this type called 'Western' Class 52s based on German Diesel Hydraulic practice with twin Maybach MD655 engines and Voith transmissions, they had a very distinctive rasping sound due to being high revving engines, they were all withdrawn from BR by 1977 but seven have been preserved. The one on the right is a Brush Type 4 / Class 47, 512 were built from 1962 to 1968 with Sulzer engines and electric generator transmissions, most have been withdrawn but there are still several working regularly on charter trains The one on the left looks quite old fashioned.
RichB said:
Pericoloso said:
How old could those trains be ?
The one on the left looks quite old fashioned.
Oi, I remember those diesels from when I was a kid. We thought the Westerns were fantastic and the Brush Type 4s decidedly modern! The one on the left looks quite old fashioned.
Went down to the west country quite a few times in the early 70's hauled by Westerns, and spent many a school lunchtime standing next to the line by West Ealing station to listen to the distinctive sound of them passing through in their final years of operation.
P5BNij said:
Nerd alert : the one on the left was built in late 1961, one of 74 of this type called 'Western' Class 52s based on German Diesel Hydraulic practice with twin Maybach MD655 engines and Voith transmissions, they had a very distinctive rasping sound due to being high revving engines, they were all withdrawn from BR by 1977 but seven have been preserved. The one on the right is a Brush Type 4 / Class 47, 512 were built from 1962 to 1968 with Sulzer engines and electric generator transmissions, most have been withdrawn but there are still several working regularly on charter trains
Great post.What constitutes high and low revving in the heavy diesel arena? For trucks peak torque is generally 900 to 1500 rpm.
P5BNij said:
Here's another, with a surprisingly sober colour selection on the cars parked in Marine Parade at Dawlish, June 1973...
Aeropilot - did you frequent 'Jacob's ladder' footbridge at Ealing...?
Behind the Mk1 Escort is a Standard Pennant - a higher spec version of the Standard 10. Only produced for 2-3 years.Aeropilot - did you frequent 'Jacob's ladder' footbridge at Ealing...?
Venisonpie said:
P5BNij said:
Nerd alert : the one on the left was built in late 1961, one of 74 of this type called 'Western' Class 52s based on German Diesel Hydraulic practice with twin Maybach MD655 engines and Voith transmissions, they had a very distinctive rasping sound due to being high revving engines, they were all withdrawn from BR by 1977 but seven have been preserved. The one on the right is a Brush Type 4 / Class 47, 512 were built from 1962 to 1968 with Sulzer engines and electric generator transmissions, most have been withdrawn but there are still several working regularly on charter trains
Great post.What constitutes high and low revving in the heavy diesel arena? For trucks peak torque is generally 900 to 1500 rpm.
P5BNij said:
Venisonpie said:
P5BNij said:
Nerd alert : the one on the left was built in late 1961, one of 74 of this type called 'Western' Class 52s based on German Diesel Hydraulic practice with twin Maybach MD655 engines and Voith transmissions, they had a very distinctive rasping sound due to being high revving engines, they were all withdrawn from BR by 1977 but seven have been preserved. The one on the right is a Brush Type 4 / Class 47, 512 were built from 1962 to 1968 with Sulzer engines and electric generator transmissions, most have been withdrawn but there are still several working regularly on charter trains
Great post.What constitutes high and low revving in the heavy diesel arena? For trucks peak torque is generally 900 to 1500 rpm.
The class 47 was diesel electric, so the diesel engine drove a generator which in turn drove electric motors mounted behind the wheels. There is no physical drive between the engine and the wheels
The Hydraulics proved to be unreliable and during the 1970s were mostly withdrawn along with a few other 'oddities' and BR standardised to the diesel electric format that we still have today.
Anyway not sure if we have gone off topic or whether these beauties can be classed as classics !
aeropilot said:
Went down to the west country quite a few times in the early 70's hauled by Westerns, and spent many a school lunchtime standing next to the line by West Ealing station to listen to the distinctive sound of them passing through in their final years of operation.
You must have been stood next to me then! I used to cycle to the old miik depot (United Dairies) between West Ealing and Jacobs ladder. It was pretty well derelict so you could just cycle in and sit on the platform edge and watch Westerns, Warships, Hymeks and Brush Type 4s go through and, on a Saturday afternoon, I seem to remember, a pair of English Electric Type 4s on a double header.P5BNij said:
Rostfritt said:
P5BNij said:
Guess where...!
Is that some sort of Q-Plate or is the car actually visiting from Queensland, judging by the AUS oval sticker?HQB said:
It has s a Temporary Import plate issued in the U.K. The car may have started off in Australia but has been imported to the U.K. for a period and will be re-exported within a year or so. ??
Mystery solved. You see a few temporary import plates in the UK, but usually to cover plates that are not recognised in the UK, like Qatari plates that just use Arabian numbers, so can't be read here. So it seems odd they did that for an Australian plate.What used to happen though was Aussies and Kiwis would come to the UK, buy a brand new car and go on a European road trip. Then when they were done they would put the car on a ship and take it back with them. They could then avoid import taxes if they didn't sell it on in the first two years. Due to import restrictions they could then sell the car on two years later for as much as they paid for it in the first place. This was such a popular thing that many manufacturers allowed you to pre order and your car would be waiting for you when you arrived. Presumably you would then get temporary export plates until you registered it back home.
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